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I have to confess that I think this is a terrific read. Levitz knows how to tell astory with the Legion. Slowly expanding the team now seems just to be the right pace. Tyroc is wearing a terrible costume, but him being back along with Mon brings a lot of raw power to the team. And while they are doing something boring like crushing space garbage, their interaction is furthering the story, focussing on the problem of a large number of fugitives on a xenophobe Earth.
I like it! This could be the Legion revival we hoped for.
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quote:Originally posted by Set: The shouting in space, whatever, Sun Boy can shoot fire and Lightning Lad can shoot lightning in space, so I'll accept space-sound, too.
Lightning can exist in space. And while fire of the type made by burning things can't exist in space, the sun certainly can.
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Another nitpick: Marzal isn't Tyroc's homeworld, unless it flew off into space. His homeworld is Earth. It would be like writing "Homeworld: Japan".
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The temperatures needed to have fire in space, ie suns/stars is pretty huge, isn't it? Can Sun Boy produce those kinds of energy? The little girl in Stephen King's book, 'Firestarter' (I think that's the title) could but I don't know if Dyrk can.
I did not know that there could be lightning in space unless a space ship or something with electrical energy was involved. Isn't electricity a flow of electrons? Are we talking dark matter again?
Anyway, I kind of liked Tyroc's look better in the close cropped hair panel, but baldish is still very much in, at least on TV. He really needs a little more eyebrow to pull it off, though.
And I was hoping for a major change in costume since I hated his 70's look, but I still wanted it to be mostly white.
Oh, well.
Shady and Lar breaking up makes me more than sad. It just feels wrong. But, maybe it'll make her change her costume?!
Brainy HAD to get the Legion to break up those Titan fragments for the space lanes, so I don't see what Tyroc's gripe was.
Fun stuff. I can hardly wait to get the issue. I LOVE the varient cover, too.
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There's not a word yet, for old friends who've just met.
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quote:Originally posted by Candle: The temperatures needed to have fire in space, ie suns/stars is pretty huge, isn't it? Can Sun Boy produce those kinds of energy?
The temperature doesn't matter. Without a medium through which to convey heat, it doesn't go anywhere (the sun's heat, for instance, is transmitted through light). In atmosphere, air conducts the heat nicely, through the agitation of molecules, but in vacuum, Dirk would have to be creating a medium (like air) and then superheating it to the point where it combusts.
He *could,* per his original power to generate light, conduct heat by shining intense light on targets, heating them up, and skipping a matter-medium altogether (and working like an actual sun), but that would be very much not 'throwing fire at people' and more of a superpowered version of the little boy with the magnifying glass, over the ant hill.
Lightning is pretty similar, requiring an atmosphere to conduct through, which would, again, require that Lightning Lad/Lass/Lord be able to create an atmosphere connecting them to their targets, or, in this case, just fire raw electrons at people, which would be doable, but not look anything like lightning. It would just be a straight beam, the 'arcing' of lightning having to do with electricity following a kinda/sorta random path to the ground.
But, it's a comic book. If Sun Boy can throw 'fire' in space (instead of beams of hot light), and Lightning Lad can throw 'lightning' (instead of beams of electrons), then I've already suspeded disbelief enough to allow Tyroc to scream and be heard. It's all good.
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I hope that, at some point, Levitz gives Tyroc a reasonably well-delimited power description. One of the things I always liked about the Legion is that the powers were simple and straight-forward (in comic book terms at least): magnetism, telepathy, growing, shrinking, etc. One of the things that makes the Legion compelling is that individually their powers are limited, so they have to work together. By the 1970s, it started to get more squishy. What EXACTLY does Wildfire do? How DOES Dawnstar fly through space? Quislet?!?!? I would like Tyroc to abandon Kid Quantum in the "really cool black character with totally ill-defined powers" club.
On the "sound in space" thing--it was the first thing I picked on too. But let's face it, Tyroc's powers HAVE to be psionic, but channeled and controlled by his vocalizations. I mean, a sonic shock wave strong enough to pulverize a rock at close range -- you're talking about small nuclear weapon-range overpressures, at a minimum. And if it were just sound, it wouldn't be focused, it would be pulverizing everybody and everything round him. So his powers really don't make sense in an atmosphere, either. Since Mon-El refers to him as a "powerhouse" (which is AWESOME!!!!), I'm guessing his powers still include the range of things he could originally do, like forcefields, pyrokinesis, teleportation, etc. I can't wait to find out. Despite his rather insulting and despicable beginnings, I'm really glad Tyroc is back!
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I forgot to mention: Mon-El, hurray! Although he seems to be sullen, wimpy Levitz Mon-El, not the hero James Robinson made him into. And I find it odd he would be on Daxam willingly, given the history of the place that Robinson and others have spelled out. Yes, it might have changed, but that would be a REALLY big change. Count me glad to see the break-up, though. If nothing else, it signifies a new direction from what Levitz and others did with the characters in the late 1980s. The future is wide-open.
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For almost the entire reboot, Shady and Lar hardly spent any time together and they were totally not with each other during Prime.
Meanwhile, Jo/Tinya and Garth/Imra were at least together for most of those eras (yes, things got complicated from time to time.)
We've now had Val/Jeckie and Thom/Nura 'break-ups' too.
It just seems wrong to make all of the Legionnaires relationships end badly, especially Tasmia and Lar since it's been so long for them to be together at all.
Instead, we have Ayla and Brin being forced to remain together. sigh
I also hope that Levitz doesn't ignore all of Robinson's and John's work with the various Legionnaires. That would be an even sadder loss than the loss of the character developments and just plain characters, in the reboot.
Why would DC allow all of that story work only to let the new writer throw it all away?
And yes, please invite Cinar here, invite ALL of the Legion related artists and writers here, for goodness sake!
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Hard to believe Shady dumped Mon. She was still swooning over him in L3W. Maybe the new costume means she's advertising for a new man. Really wish she'd cover up a bit.
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Kinda reminds me of the Madonna syndrome ... you know, she's still in good shape and all that, but let's face it, she IS 52 so should be dressing a bit more serious for her age. Or in Shady's case experience instead of age.
I don't think the creators will ever tell us the exact chronological age of our Legion heroes. That would be akin to telling us the real ages of all the Archie gang.
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^ My post about Mon and Shady and couples in the Legion seems a bit weird in that thread, but it's all good.
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