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This is a train wreck. Ugh. Much worse than anything Devin Grayson could dream up. And the art, not so hot.

I agree with Mystery Lad about not recognizing Dick Grayson, and about too many look alike characters.

Yikes, this is the most disappointing of all OYL titles for me.

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I disagree that it's worse then anything Devin has dreamed up. Jones, for example, has not had Dick raped at the hands of a Mary Sue character after completely failing in his mission to stop the book's main bad guy.

Is the book any good currently? Not really. But it isn't that good largely because Jones has picked up Nightwing from where Devin left it, instead of using Infinite Crisis and OYL as a basis to expand on the character.

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Nightwing = the worst comic being produced by DC. I'd say Marvel too, but I'm not dumb enough to buy all those crappy X-spinoff titles [Big Grin]

I have issue #3 OYL in front of me right now...but I just can't bring myself to open it yet. I fear the inside content. I fear it.

(Devin Grayson's run, however, like OM says, is still hands down the worst run on traditionally great title since, jeez, ever?)

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I say have Gail write the book. She gets the Bat family so much better than the others on these books.

What I would like to see OYL, is Bruce giving Dick a serious dressing down and bring the guy back to his real roots and play off his strengths. If you want a second-rate Batman, bring Azrael back.

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Gail's a possibility.

Geoff Johns has on more than one occasion (most recently at Bristol) expressed a desire to write the character.

Fabian Niceza seems to like Nightwing a lot too, and is having him guest-star in a Superman arc he's doing with Kurt Busiek.

I can't remember where, but I think Allan Heinberg also said he was a fan.

There are plenty of candidates.

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I love Geoff but I'm afraid that it would be too dark for the interpretation most would like to see.

Fabian would be good. He's one of those writers than can go from light to dark stories pretty easily.

Putting Heinberg on any project makes me nervous because of the delays. I wonder how long before WW gets a guest writer....

Busiek actually would be a good choice, as would Waid. I'd like to see a writer with a lot of clout take over though. A lot of people feel that Dick is getting the shaft after his initial setup in the first few issues of IC.

There's been some recent blogging going on about this very subject.
The Absorbacon

I'm very much inclined to agree with these folks.

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Well, I've dropped this again. For as long as DC continues to treat NIGHTWING like the redheaded stepchild of the Batbooks. We need a top writer, and an artist to go with him/her.

Heinberg's going to be too busy trying to get 6 issues each of YA and WW out a year. [LOL]

I'll have to check out Dick's guest-spot in Fabe and Busiek's Superman arc.

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Jones isn't working here, much like his HULK wasn't working. He doesn't seem to have the character down, just some vague notions of his recent history. With the OYL gap, and what we know of his time with Bruce and Tim, it seems odd to continue themes from Devin's run.

Give Fabe the title. He could use some DC work, and he'd certainly lighten the title up a bit. Bring back McDaniel or Hester (he didn't get much time on the book.)

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quote:
Originally posted by Pov:
Heinberg's going to be too busy trying to get 6 issues each of YA and WW out a year. [LOL]

Yeah, I think "Young Avengers Quarterly" would make me cry [Wink]

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Unfortunately, Hester/Parks are busy with the new Ant-man series.

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Good news! At least it *could* be...

Follow this link and scroll down a little over halfway. Warning-- there may be spoilers about other DC titles before you get to the news item relevant to this thread.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/000764634.cfm

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That news should have me jumping for joy at the prospect. Unfortunately I read the other spoilers and saw one regarding the Legion a few entries below the Nightwing one that has completely ruined my day.

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I'm not a fan of the upcoming writer. He's not bad, just hasn't impressed me with anything.

As for the current team- ugh! Given the intentions for Dick, this title should have been cancelled ala Flash and WW.

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Looks like this could be some potentially good news for us long-suffering Nightwing fans.

Marv Wolfman returns to write Nightwing!

Only for four issues but I have a feeling DC's skittish over committing to another writer for longer.

For me, what he has to say about what needs to be done with the character really echoes what most of us feel here.

Jamie

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i may start purchasing Nightwing monthly again. But at this point Id have to read the first issue before i make a decision. However I am more willing to read a Wolfman issue than any of the Jones stuff.

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