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Here's the place to share reviews of comics you've read that may not fit into any existing topic and that you may feel may not merit their own topic. Maybe it's a book that you may not feel comfortable spotlighting in the "Any Recommendations" thread but would like to share your thoughts on anyway. Single issues, TPBs, graphic novels, classic reprints...these are all fair game here even if they weren't recently released.
No one is discouraged from opening or starting a topic about whatever they want to talk about, but this is an option if you don't wanna do that!
I'll be back shortly with my own Random Reviews...how about YOU?
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First up for me is the BOOM! Comics series 28 Days Later, which is the continuation of the movie of the same name. Apparently, it ignores, without directly contradicting, the filmed sequel 28 Weeks Later. If you've seen the sequel, you'll know that it doesn't follow up on any of the characters from the original.
So this series directly follows the continuing adventures of one of the three survivors of the eponymous film: Click Here For A SpoilerSelena. This survivor is approached by a crew of journalists to be their guide as they attempt to illegally enter infection-ridden England to document what has happened in the aftermath of the events of the film. It's kind of a dubious premise given all the character went through to get out, but it's entertaining at times.
Apparently this is an open-ended, ongoing series. That surprised me as all the set-up really seems to scream "mini-series". Is it going to go thru different story arcs, or will it continue to be about this group of journalists indefinitely? I haven't read anything explaining the larger plan for the series, so I don't know.
Another problem I have is what about the other 2 survivors of the film? They are barely even referenced, and I got the feeling they would all be sticking together from then on at the film's end. One possibility is that the series could be going on the filmmakers' original intent that one of these three didn't survive the wounds entailed near the movie's end. If so, that still leaves another character unaccounted for. I liked the character featured here a lot, but the ambiguity about the others bugs me.
I'm on the precipice of discontinuing the book because there's very little reward in reading it on a monthly basis. In other words it seems a prototypical "written for the trades" kinda book. Even though we're down to only three apparent survivors from the crew, most of them apparently perished in an explosion last issue. That's not very much of a reward for longterm reading, and I felt like we barely got to know most of the characters. Plus, we haven't really got very much infected action to this point, so it's been pretty disappointing.
All that said, an advanced review of issue #5 (coming out tomorrow) looks like a promising tale giving us some backstory on theses journalists. I'll probably pick up that issue at least before making a decision.
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Next up is another BOOM! licensed series I originally recommended in the "Any Recommendations" thread in this post:
quote:Originally posted by Lardi: Based on this CBR review, I decided to take a chance and pick up the first issue of Boom! Studio's adaptation of Philip K. Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? For those who've never heard of it, this was the book that the movie Blade Runner was loosely based upon.
While I do like Blade Runner, I've never been a really huge fan as it seemed to me to have more style than substance. While there are a lot of great visuals and concepts, the story and the characters never set my intellect on fire. Really, it wasn't all that great or distinctive a story, IMO.
So over the years I'd heard that the movie was very much not representative of the book like so many other movie adaptations, but the thought of actually reading the book was something that never really came to fruition.
So I read the review and was fascinated by how this project was actually going to use every single word that Dick used in his book (rather than some writer's selective use of them) accompanied by traditional comic book panel layouts (as opposed to spot illustrations you might expect in similar undertakings) and was intrigued enough to give it a go.
I just read issue one, and it was outstanding! Nothing much happens actionwise in this first issue, but it's just LOADED with imagination and fascinating sci-fi concepts as you are invited into this fully realized world. The visuals aren't exactly groundbreaking in and of themselves, but they do what a project like this should do and enhance what you're reading with them.
I suppose I could save the money I would spend on a 24-issue project which costs $3.99 a pop by just buying the novel for a portion of the total cost, but I really feel like I got my money's worth here. It was a much longer read than a normal comic, and each issue also has a bonus article like Brubaker's Criminal or Incognito, the first one by Warren Ellis.
That was some nice value for my money! I've already got #2 and look forward to reading it when its turn comes (I'm about a month behind in my reading and read each comic in the order I bought them almost without exception). I wish all $4 comics provided as much thought-provoking entertainment!
Well, since issue number one, I've slowly decided that Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? is failing for me. This approach to adapting a novel is just not working in the medium of comic books. Six issues in, and very little has happened. Everything that was in that first issue is still there, but the pace is comparable to a snail's.
It looked like in this latest issue that we were gonna finally see Deckard confront an "Andy", but it turns out the one he was looking for had already split. I know it's directly from the book, but we wasted a WHOLE $3.99 ISSUE for that! This would've been, like, a page in any other adaptation! But we've still got 18 ISSUES to go!
This was a noble experiment, but I can't justify spending $96 bucks altogether for this. I'll either get the rest of it in the collected editions or just buy the Philip K. Dick book and save some dough. Hell, they've even apparently eliminated those great articles in the back to show how a page in the book was produced. I've never really been too impressed by those features, so it didn't do that for me here either.
I'm telling my Comic Book Guy tomorrow to take it off my pull list.
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This thread is great and I'm glad you started it, Lardy. This can be the catch-all for things that aren't quite good enough for "Any Recommendations" and maybe didn't need their own thread. I would have used it previously for two serires I dabbled with: Rapture by Dark Horse and Doctor Voodoo by Marvel. I also reviewed Dead @ 17 here.
Another one that fits the bill that I picked up recently was Athena by Dynamite Entertainment. Dynamite has carved out a niche for itself as the publisher that is giving all the licensed properties that have been in the comic book industry since the Golden Age: the Lone Ranger, Zorro, Buck Rogers, Dracula, Sherlock Holmes, soon Green Hornet and even almost Fighting American. I know they’re trying to get the Phantom (I think Moonstone does his series now) and this actually seems like where Doc Savage and the Shadow should be published, not DC. The difference between this and so many other attempts is that usually Dynamite does a pretty good job. I’m kicking myself for missing out on Sherlock Holmes, and am hoping to give it a try when the new storyline starts at #6. Anyway, I picked up Athena because she’s one of cooler Greco-Roman deities and I think she could hold her own comic well. While the series wasn’t bad, it unfortunately wasn’t anything to write home to Mom about. It was a little run of the mill and Athena basically wakes up in modern times and becomes a police detective. That premise in and of itself could be interesting but I feel like I read way too many cop-oriented comics already and I’d have preferred a different focus with Athena, something more adventure related and Greek mythology related. The art was fantastic but at times it was slightly gratuitous—which isn’t a bad thing if you like that, but I found it distracting since I see Athena as the Virgin Goddess and that sort of thing threw me off. Ultimately I picked up #1 and #2 and then stopped.
I will, however, be checking out Green Hornet and hopefully Sherlock Holmes with #6. I’ve considered Lone Ranger but never followed through.
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quote:Originally posted by Lardi: First up for me is the BOOM! Comics series 28 Days Later, which is the continuation of the movie of the same name. Apparently, it ignores, without directly contradicting, the filmed sequel 28 Weeks Later. If you've seen the sequel, you'll know that it doesn't follow up on any of the characters from the original.
So this series directly follows the continuing adventures of one of the three survivors of the eponymous film: Click Here For A SpoilerSelena. This survivor is approached by a crew of journalists to be their guide as they attempt to illegally enter infection-ridden England to document what has happened in the aftermath of the events of the film. It's kind of a dubious premise given all the character went through to get out, but it's entertaining at times.
Apparently this is an open-ended, ongoing series. That surprised me as all the set-up really seems to scream "mini-series". Is it going to go thru different story arcs, or will it continue to be about this group of journalists indefinitely? I haven't read anything explaining the larger plan for the series, so I don't know.
Another problem I have is what about the other 2 survivors of the film? They are barely even referenced, and I got the feeling they would all be sticking together from then on at the film's end. One possibility is that the series could be going on the filmmakers' original intent that one of these three didn't survive the wounds entailed near the movie's end. If so, that still leaves another character unaccounted for. I liked the character featured here a lot, but the ambiguity about the others bugs me.
I'm on the precipice of discontinuing the book because there's very little reward in reading it on a monthly basis. In other words it seems a prototypical "written for the trades" kinda book. Even though we're down to only three apparent survivors from the crew, most of them apparently perished in an explosion last issue. That's not very much of a reward for longterm reading, and I felt like we barely got to know most of the characters. Plus, we haven't really got very much infected action to this point, so it's been pretty disappointing.
All that said, an advanced review of issue #5 (coming out tomorrow) looks like a promising tale giving us some backstory on theses journalists. I'll probably pick up that issue at least before making a decision.
I liked 28 Days later but not enough to make me want to follow it up on a comic book. Its obvious comics and other media are going through a 'zombie-mania' era right now. Yet, that type of trend usually means the majority of things will not be the top quality. While Walking Dead is the gold standard of zombie comics, Marvel Zombies is kind of like a #2, with moments of brillance followed up by moments of the more derivative and bland. I figured since I was collecting those two, I wouldn't be adding a third zombie comic book unless someone told me I was really missing out.
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Bah! *I* should be a moderator in this forum
Anyway, another review I've been meaning to crank out: Incorruptible by Mark Waid and Boom! Studios. I missed out on Irredeemable when it debuted because frankly, it sounded (and still does) pretty derivative of stories I’ve seen a million times in which a super-powerful hero goes crazy and becomes a bad guy: Miracleman (the classic); a dozen plus Superman stories; Parallax, etc. It just wasn’t enough to make me want to buy and even with some good reviews, I’m still not all that interested. I picked up Incorruptible only half realizing it was connected to Irredeemable in some way (its kind of like the exact opposite set in the same world) but figured I’d still give it a solid chance anyway. I’m a little on the fence on whether I’ll continue following #1. I likely will buy #2 but that will be my cut-off: grab me or lose me forever.
Incorruptible, a mass murderer villain trying to redeem himself while the greatest hero on Earth has gone the other way, is a more interesting premise to me. And the character himself is pretty interesting—that all being said, you don’t really learn all that much about him in #1. In fact, my major complaint is not all that much happens in #1 other than pure set-up, and I’m going to need more than that to commit to anything.
The art is exciting and unique with some Tim Sale type inspiration. That’s a bonus for me, but again, I felt like there was an over-usage of splash page dynamic shots of action mixed with talking heads—not the best way to use an exciting artist.
The main supporting character is a young female sidekick named Jailbait, which of course made me think of my own Jailbait Lass who I created, which of course made me presume that Mark Waid obviously stole this character from me when he registered on Legion World. Anyone who tells me differently will instantly become a hated enemy for life.
Here’s my major complaint: I don’t intend to buy Irredeemable but am considering Incorruptible. Isn’t it a comic book publisher’s job to make every single title accessible to new readers on a stand-alone basis? Shouldn’t one title easily be collectible without the reader having to pick up the sister-title? Obviously I think yes, and I think in order to do that, you need have that title find its own “voice”; thus far, I didn’t see that. I hope I’m wrong…they have one issue to convince me.
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Unsurprisingly, a search for a Punisher thread yielded no results, so here I'm taking a few moments to review a the latest mature readers Punisher series called Punisher Max.
Certainly, I'm not the guy who picks up every grim-and-gritty generic franchise vigilante title that comes along, but there are two reasons I did: Jason Aarons and Steve Dillon. The former I know as the writer of his creator-owned Vertigo title Scalped, which is one of my top five favorite comics I'm currently picking up. The latter is a terrific artist best known for his work with Garth Ennis on Hellblazer, Preacher and the first year-plus worth of Punisher stories wrote (plus a mini last year that revisited their Punisher storyline). I'm a big fan of both of their work, so checking this out was a must.
Basically, Aarons is channeling Garth Ennis on this project so far, seeking to capture that blend of over-the-top violence and dark humor that Garth and Steve brewed in their run. What Aarons adds to the mix is his penchant for writing the criminal element, particularly the Kingpin.
This series deals with Marvel Universe characters Fisk and Castle but is outside of continuity. What this means is that Aarons can potentially do whatever he wants with these characters without impacting their roles in the proper "canon". Particularly, Aarons is giving us his version of the Kingpin's rise to power as a potential solution to the menace to the underworld that is Frank Castle. It's a pretty clever idea where the mob families conspire to make Castle believe there'a a person who rules them all in order to draw Castle into a trap. Problem is, Fisk, one of the mob boss's right hands, is orchestrating the ruse but is obviously fully intending to make it a reality with Fisk filling the role for real!
So far, so good. However, if you're not a fan of the Ennis/Dillon style, you're probably not going to like it. If you like Criminal, this is a much less subtle and nuanced type of crime comic and may not be to your liking. There's eyeballs popping out and bullets to thru the eyes left and right. All with the darkest of dark gallows humor in play. It also sucks that this is one of Marvel's numerous $3.99 comics with no extra pages.
What's kinda nice is that Aarons makes it clear, especially in how he and Steve tell issue 2, that there's very little difference between the supposed good guy and bad guy in their methods and ruthlessness. In some cases Fisk actually comes off as more sympathetic as we see the events that made him into who he is and the subtle moments that show us his love for his son. So far, this is definitely much more the Kingpin's story than it is the Punisher's.
Overall, I recommend it highly with the asterisk that it may not be your cup of tea. If you haven't enjoyed the stuff that Garth and Steve have done before, you won't like what Jason and Steve are producing here.
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You know, despite his beginnings, I've never been a huge Punisher fan. However, I don't hate the character and there are times I enjoy his presence. Which brings me back to "his beginnings"--I actually love when the Punisher would guest-star in Spider-Man's comics and felt the dynamic was perfect for a great story. The same with Daredevil though to a lesser degree.
That being said, I must credit Chuck Dixon and Johnny Romita Jr.'s 1990's "Punisher War Zone" comic for single-handidly getting my brother into comics after years of resisting. Sure, it was the 3rd Punisher title in an era when the Punisher was everywhere. But I also read it and thought it was excellent; the best series of Punisher issues I've ever read (roughly #1-13 IIRC). I reread not that long ago and its even better than I remember with Chuck Dixon at his absolute best.
That's all a bit off point though in reference to Punisher Max. What I'm getting at is that after Dixon left War Zone, we stopped collecting and then have not collected a Punisher series ever since. Even with Ennis as the writer (whom I love). Now Jason Aaron has come on, after impressing the hell out of me with Scalped (and damn I wish I tried out his Ghost Rider but I didn't realize it was him until after he was gone). Steve Dillon is a favorite of mine from his Preacher days with Ennis. Yet, even with these two guys I probably would have skipped the series all together anyway.
This is, of course, a long winded way of saying I might just have to try this out. It has several reasons I'd want to do so (Aaron, Dillon, sometimes liking the Punisher as a character). It just takes me a recomendation from someone whose preferences I trust.
Two things seem glaring to me: (1) $3.99 with nothing extra, something I find almost criminal. And (2) the usage of the Kingpin outside of continuity. Honestly, I don't see why they'd even bother--they could have just created a new character. On the one hand, I like when writers have some leeway in telling stories without continuity restrictions but on the other hand, you can't shake off the sense that the story doesn't count. Its never a deal-breaker but its definitely a hurdle.
I guess it will come down to the last second decision right there in the store if there is an available copy staring me in the face.
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quote:Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: Anyway, another review I've been meaning to crank out: Incorruptible by Mark Waid and Boom! Studios.
Having just read Incorruptible earlier this week, I can say that I was very, very unimpressed and disappointed in the debut. I was excited by the concept of the opposite story to Irredeemable's Plutonian, but the transition to hero for Max Danger here just seemed too complete and unbelievable.
Now, Max hasn't really been seen over in Irredeemable to this point, so my criticism is NOT based on that. But based on the concept, it just seems implausible that a really bad guy would turn so far from what he was. Here, he's shown turncoating on his old buddies, taking the moral high ground with his underage paramour and destroying his old ill-gotten base of operations along with all his ill-gotten gains.
What's been explained in interviews with Waid (though not in this issue) is that Max's transformation is in reaction to the terrible threat to the world that his enemy the Plutonian has become. That seeing this change changed Max for the better because he saw what true evil was. None of that's explained here, and I think we need it post-haste to really wrap our minds around the character.
Waid has played the Plutonian and his descent into evil very slowly, revealing little clues and bits as he goes along. I think that has worked very well in that title, but there, the Plutonian is the antagonist.
If we're gonna root for Maz Danger, that approach just ain't gonna work in Incorruptible. If I don't see more of what I need really quickly, I'll drop this $4 comic like a hot potato!
Cobie's right, though--the art is really nice and a good fit with Peter Krause's over at Irredeemable.Hopefully, it won't continue to be wasted on a thoroughly uninvolving story!
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I've been reading DC's The Great Ten by Tony Bedard and Scott McDaniel. It's picking up on the group from 52. Bedard has managed to make all the Great Ten interesting, independent characters. He's tied them to more traditional Chinese folklore, but nothing require advanced knowledge. Each issue covers a member of the Ten, interacting with others of the group, and moving along a story of ancient gods returning.
The art is energetic, full of activity, very McDaniels. It's great for moving through a story in one issue. And he does a good job of making each issue feel specific to each character.
Something different in DC's stable, and I'm liking it.
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PunisherMax - well, I stopped by a CBS I don't normally go to (the one near my dog's groomer) and they didn't have a copy of #1 so I didn't pick it up. But if I see another somewhere else, I may follow up on.
Great Ten - I didn't realize Scott McDaniel was the artist here (or Bedard actually). I've loved McDaniel's work since Nightwing. I kind of wrote this miniseries off as something I wouldn't bother with because I now feel a deep distrust towards DC and their endless stream of minis and ongoings that fall flat. I'll browse through in the CBS next time.
One comic I picked up recently was Domino Lady by Moonstone Comics because it looked like a sexy, noirish title in the vain of the 30's pulps. Well, er, the sexy thing is sure true but I didn't realize its more of a platform for pin-up / good girl art than real sort of story. I'd say it hinges dangerous close to softcore porn (no nudity but basically all sex). There's nothing wrong with that but its not what I'm looking for in my comics these days, especially since I have them laying around my condo for my wife and eventually child to see. I guess it would be in the vain of some of those 30's pulps that were more titilating than quality. I won't be picking up another issue.
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Yesterday, I read the latest issue of Irredeemable (#9), which is the comic from which the above-mentioned Incorruptible was spun off. I found it to be one of the better issues of the series to date.
For those who are unfamiliar with it, Irredeemable is about a world in which its Superman archetype, called the Plutonian, has gone totally bad. He's committed many, many atrocities including killing millions of people. One memorable issues shows the extent of his depravity as he destroys a Singapore-like country pretty much on a whim.
The protagonists of the series are the survivors of this world's JLA equivalent, the Paradigm. As the series opens, several of the Paradigm's members have already been killed by the Plutonian and more die in the first several issues. The survivors are desperate to find a way to bring the Plutonian down.
The thrust of the series is both their efforts to find a solution and their continuing exploration into what turned him in the first place. The Paradigm from the beginning have been following leads on both of these things. One interesting difference between Plutonian/Paradigm and Superman/JLA is that none of the Paradigm ever really knew much of anything about the Plutonian including his secret identity or the source of his power. So there is NO Kryptonite or any other known weakness, at least none that they've discovered.
So the series typically shows flashbacks to the Plutonian's time as a hero, typically through the remembrances of other Paradigm members. In the present the Paradigm typically split their time between looking for something to use against him, rescuing others from him and running from him. Only with issue #8 have they found anything that is effective at all, finally scoring their first victory against him as one of the Paradigm has gotten a big power boost.
Issue 9 deals with the aftermath of that victory and how this possible solution may be potentially as bad as the problem. Meanwhile, members of the Paradigm still pursue another solution in the form of trying to locate Modeus who was the Plutonian's arch enemy a la Lex Luthor or Brainiac.
I'd say the last few issues have brought some much-needed forward momentum to a series that, while enjoyable, has seemed to meander. This is the reason I haven't put Irredeemable in the "Any Recommendations" thread. For a superhero book, it demands a lot of patience from the reader. While there's been plenty of action, we still haven't, for example, learned exactly what the deal is as to why the Plutonian went bad. We've gotten puzzle pieces, but there's not anything definitive.
In a way this is a "quest" series more than anything. A quest for the truth. A quest for a solution to the problem. Any time you have a series like that, it can be problematic in holding the reader's interest. In that sense (and because it's a $3.99 comic) this may be a more perfect read in trade form.
But Irredeemableis picking up and moving forward, it is becoming less about a bad guy constantly routing the competition and it isgetting better as it goes on. What it isn't delivering so far, surprisingly, is compelling characters. The Paradigm so far haven't really impressed me as characters. In some ways they're kinda generic. To this point I haven't really found myself rooting for any one in particular or being particularly fearful that one or the other would be the next victim of the Plutonian. The Plutonian himself is the most enigmatic of them all but by necessity. Other than continuing the forward momentum, I'd say that is the main thing Waid needs to focus on much more from this point.
The Peter Krause art has been the consistently positive aspect of the series for me. I vaguely remember him from DC's Star Trek comics many years ago, and this guy's work has improved greatly from what I remember. The closest comparison I can think of is Brent Anderson's work on Astro City without seeming like he's aping that style.
So if you want to try it, go back and reread this review and weigh everything I said against your own sensibilities. If you decide to try it, consider trades or buying complete issue sets on eBay. If you pick up a random issue, I think you won't be all that impressed.
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Although not a comic book per se, I have just finished reading E.C. Segar's Popeye "Plunder Island". This is an oversized book put out by Fantagraphics.
The book reprints the Sunday strips from Dec 3, 1933 through April 7, 1935 and the daily strips from Dec 11, 1933 through Jult 23, 1935. The Sunday strips are in full color and also feature the accompanying strip "Sappo" (one of the daily strips has Popeye talking about John Sappo)
In the Sunday strips, the actual Plunder Island saga lasts only until July 8, 1934. The rest of the Sunday strips have about 2-4 connected strips, but no overriding story like Plunder Island. Plunder Island introduces us to the Sea Hag and Alice, the Goon. There is a good combination of humor and adventure. Segar is good at setting a mood, setting some strips at night.
The daily strips also follow a story line. Among the story lines are Olive inheriting $20 million, Popeye falling in love with June Vanripple (daughter of the world's richest man), Olive making a movie and then suffering a nervous breakdown, the search for a cure, and dealing with an overthrown king. Later Segar has Popeye going West to root out some thieves and then a quest for the Pool of Youth. The Pool of Youth story brings back the Sea Hag, but Alice only shows up in one panel of one strip.
Popeye's romance with June Vanripple last from March to July of 1934. June shows up again at the end of September and remains in the strip until November of 1934. June's father was in the strip from March of 1934 through January 1935. June is unique among the characters in that she is drawn realistically. I do not think that she or her father were brought back into the strip.
Twice within the daily strips Segar has a stereotypical negro character of the day, the second one seems to have been a new character introduced, but it appears that the character was dropped. There were episodes of Popeye cross-dressing, only once as a disguise. A reoccurring theme is having Popeye come into large sums of money and almost immediately giving the money (and sometimes his clothes) away to impovished people, usually "widers which ain't got no husbands" and their children. Always admonishing them to feed their children spinach and milk.
The oversize of the book makes it a little unwieldy and shelving it difficult. The price is somewhat high at $29.99. The sheer number of strips makes reading it in one sitting almost impossible (you can try it if you want to) I did find another volume in the Boston Public Library. If your library has any of the volumes, I recommend it as a good read.
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Cool stuff, Quis! I've been just reading about Popeye lately in my spare time (reading about comic strips that made it into early comic books) and I was surprised at just how immensely popular Popeye was in the 1930's and 1940's. While I'm familiar with Popeye like most Americans, I realize now I'm not as knowledgable as I thought. I actually might be interested in buying a copy of those eventually.
Popeye's "look" and speech patterns make him one of the most likeable and innately silly of all comic strip icons. How can you not like him?
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