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What? Wasn't RJ in the LSH origin story that appeared mid-to-late Adventure run?

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I'd agree with that matlock, it really did bring R.J. back into the limelight.

And the Omega 2 parter by Starlin was awesome! Wildfire and Superboy standing in the rubble of their HQ was "the" definitive Legion moment, and said something about both these young men's characters. Thanks for the reminder Cobie!

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quote:
Originally posted by Lard Lad:
What? Wasn't RJ in the LSH origin story that appeared mid-to-late Adventure run?

If memory serves Lardy, R.J. was introduced during Adventure Comics run (around #350) as their rich benefactor, but their origin as a team (saving his life) was never told until the 1970s (I believe it was in DC Super-Stars #17).

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Hmmmm.....maybe I need something to sway me one way or the other: exactly how many issues of the approximately 40 we're talking about did Conway write?

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Most of them actually. Starlin did the Omega storyline. There were occasional fill ins, like Demattius on the Mayavale story. Roy Thomas comes in for Reflecto and is quickly replaced by Levitz. Pretty much everything else is Conway.

One word of warning in case you do decide to pick them up. Avoid the Space Circus storyline. Conway and the Legion at an all time low. League of Super Assasins is probably Conway and Staton's best effort. The Superboy solo in Smallville sections of the trip back to Krypton story play to Staton's strenghts. Things pick up quite a bit when Janes replaces Staton

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Lard Lad:
What? Wasn't RJ in the LSH origin story that appeared mid-to-late Adventure run?

If memory serves Lardy, R.J. was introduced during Adventure Comics run (around #350) as their rich benefactor, but their origin as a team (saving his life) was never told until the 1970s (I believe it was in DC Super-Stars #17).
The founders are shown saving Brande in Superboy #147 from 1968. The DC Super Stars story expands on that and tells how they got deputized by the Science Police and could function as law enforcement officials.

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This was the period where I actually dropped the Legion from my reading list. The only time in my life that I refused to buy the Legion, btw. I've since filled in the gap with comics from overstock sales and the infamous "quarter box" but I almost never read them. (the completist thing)

There was hardly a book on the shelves worth reading at the time and I almost stopped buying comics altogether. Thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster that Frank Miller was hired to do Daredevil or my comics collection would have ended right there.

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Thanks Jerry, I remember that issue Superboy issue now! [Smile]

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Ahem...

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Well, yeah...but [Superboy] does return soon, albeit fairly rarely. What was the reason he left, anyway (other than [the editorial reason] to give the LSH the spotlight alone, obviously)?

...still waiting for this answer, by the way! [Roll Eyes]

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He left to give the LSH the spotlight, as you assumed.


It was S/LSH #258 and LSH #259, and the Legion fought the Psycho-Warrior. He could make you see your worst nightmare, and Superboy's was to discover how his loved ones died. He couldn't cope with the pain of knowing this information. Saturn Girl planted a post-hypnotic suggestion that he never return to the 30th century for his own good. Basically he remembers their adventures while he is in the 30th century but when he returns home to Smallville the details get fuzzy (to prevent his knowledge of the future from affecting his actions & behavior on present day activities). As long as he stayed in the 20th century, he wouldn't remember how they would die.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jerry:
One word of warning in case you do decide to pick them up. Avoid the Space Circus storyline. Conway and the Legion at an all time low.

For some reason, I always have had a soft spot for the Space Circus issues. I know they are ridiculously cheesy, but having the Legionnaires undercover as circus stars gave a few good moments.

Somebody mentioned the development of Timber Wolf during this period. I really liked the take on him being very spartan and isolated in 30th century civilization. One of my disappointments with Levitz's run was that he completely abandoned this aspect of Timber Wolf's personality.

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Based on your original conditions, I'd say fugedaboudit. The only things that happened that stuck were Blok, and RJ as Cham's dad. There were some decent character moments, but not a lot.

The art was only okay. A handful of Perez covers were better than all of the era's interior pages. Staton and Janes were only okay, IMO. Ditko's stories were like novelties.

That said, I'm a completist. I have all the sequential issues from the Archives til today. I'm only missing guest apps here and there. It bugs me to not know the little things that the characters have been through, let alone major skirmeshes. So there you have 2 different answers, Lardy.

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Jimmy Janes art may have been good, but it suffered from atrocious inking up until his last few issues. IMHO they're not worth reprinting in a trade paperback much less an Archive.

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If you are considering collecting the issues from this time period, don't forget the "Secrets of the Legion of Super-Heroes" three issue mini-series that came out then also! I'd say it is a must even if you don't complete the pre-boot series. [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by googoomuck:
Jimmy Janes art may have been good, but it suffered from atrocious inking up until his last few issues. IMHO they're not worth reprinting in a trade paperback much less an Archive.

I just finished reading the latest Essential Avengers and I get to the issue just before Giant-Size Avengers #4...I'm thinking who did the art, it's atrocious. It sorta looks like it was pencilled by George Tuska, who usually does a god workman-like job, but I can't really tell. I flip to the credits and, of course, it's inked by Frank Chiaramonte.

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