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Welcome everyone to this exciting game known as a Tournament. I want to thank everyone here for the opportunity to share this fun game with this forum. I want to thank Invisible Brainiac for his help in the set-up and running of this game. I also want to thank the staff for providing us with easily obtainable information about the Legion of Super-Heroes.
Tournaments are battles between teams of characters, and the winners are determined by player votes. I have looked through the archives and chosen 72 characters who have been in the Legion of Super-Heroes (at least a Substitute or Honorary member). You will see at least a few characters from each version of the LSH in order to have a diverse body of powers and power levels. I have decided to divide the characters into twenty-four teams of three members each, but there may be opportunities to increase the number of characters in Wild Card rounds.
I have chosen the teams by running the list through a random generator twice. We will begin combat shortly, but first we will choose leaders for each team. Please vote for which sentient should be the leader of each team. I will use a coin-toss to break any ties. Please also tell me if you have suggestions for rules, round conditions, and any concerns.
1. Neon, Shikari, and Quislet 2. Lightning Lad (Retroboot), Kono (Glorithverse), and Phantom Girl (Retroboot) 3. Sensor Girl (Retroboot), Blok (Retroboot), and Crystal Kid (5 Year Later) 4. Night Girl (Retroboot), Dawnstar (Retroboot), and Monstress 5. Wildfire (Retroboot), Insect Queen (Pre-Crisis), and Polar Boy (Retroboot) 6. Kid Psycho (Pre-Crisis), Rond Vidar (Green Lantern), and Echo (5 Year Gap) 7. Comet Queen (Retroboot), Turtle (Threeboot), and Kid Quantum I (Glorithverse) 8. Catspaw, Chemical King (Retroboot), and Mon- El (Retroboot) 9. XS (Retroboot), Tyroc (Retroboot), and Stone Boy (Retroboot) 10. Nemesis Kid (Pre-Crisis), Thunder, and Star Boy (Retroboot) 11. Sizzle (Threeboot), Dragonmage (SW6), and Nightwind （5 Year Gap) 12. White Witch (Pre-Crisis), Andromeda, and Chlorophyll Kid (Retroboot) 13. Ultra Boy (Retroboot), Spider-Girl (Glorithverse), Shrinking Violet (Postboot) 14. Chemical Kid (Retroboot), Impulse (Kent Shakespeare), and Supergirl (Retroboot) 15. Tellus (Retroboot), Kid Quantum II, and Devlin O’Ryan 16. Timber Wolf (Retroboot), Brainiac 5 (Postboot) and Gazelle 17. Kinetix (Non-Terraform), Color Kid (Retroboot), and Ferro (Postboot) 18. Invisible Kid II (Retroboot), Elastic Lad (Pre-Crisis), and Shadow Lass (Retroboot) 19. Fire Lad (Retroboot), Lightning Lass (Retroboot)and Element Lad (Postboot) 20. Gates (Retroboot),Kon-El, and Computo (SW6) 21. Dream Girl (Retroboot), Storm Boy (5 Year Gap), and Chameleon Boy (Retroboot) 22. Colossal Boy (Retroboot),Saturn Girl (Retroboot), and Karate Kid (Retroboot) 23. Matter-Eater Lad (Retroboot), Bouncing Boy (Retroboot), and Infectious Lass (Retroboot) 24. Cosmic Boy (Retroboot), Duplicate Damsel (Retroboot), and Sun Boy (Retroboot)
Note: Edited to remove characters with multiple versions.
-------------------- Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
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1. Neon (this is a very weird team) 2. Phantom Girl 3. Sensor Girl 4. Night Girl 5. Polar Boy 6. Rond Vidar 7. Kid Quantum I (this is also a weird team) 8. Mon-El 9. Tyroc 10. Nemesis Kid 11. Nightwind 12. White Witch 13. Ultra Boy 14. Supergirl 15. Kid Quantum II 16. Brainiac 5 17. Kinetix 18. Shadow Lass 19. Element Lad 20. Computo 21. Chameleon Boy 22. Saturn Girl 23. Bouncing Boy 24. Cosmic Boy
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Since the voting process is going smoothly so far, I want to give the process of how combat will take place. This is by no means set in stone and I welcome suggestions by players on how to improve mechanics:
1) The decision of which teams will face eachother will be determined by a random generator for the first round.
2) The decision of the state of the field will also be determined by a random generator. It could for example take place in a laboratory or a maze.
3) The players vote on which team would win the battle. I have yet to decide how much time I should give for players to vote. Please let me know your opinions on this matter. If there are any ties I will use a coin-toss to break them and send those results to another player through private messaging, who will then post them.
4) When teams are defeated, they are eliminated from the tournament. However, there will Wild Card Rounds halfway through the Tournament. The Wild Card will allow players to bring back two defeated teams. It will also allow the players to recruit two characters per each team. There will be more details on this as we go forward.
I will keep voting for leaders open until 3:00 P.M tomorrow. Thank you for your participation.
-------------------- Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
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I think 2-3 days is enough for most players to weigh in. I use 2-day rounds for my Legion Idol game, and it's worked decently so far. 3 would be safest since not everyone has consistent Net access.
I wonder, is it possible to shake teams up from round to round? It may be a lot of work for you, but I thought it'd be fun (and a bit more fair) if so. That way, Legionnaires get the opportunity to try their hand with different teammates.
Other than that, the rest sounds great Can't wait for Round 1!
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Thank you for voting for team leaders! I only had to use a coin-toss to break two ties: Wildfire vs. Polar Boy and Star Boy vs. Nemesis Kid. The team leaders are designated by the asterisk in front of their name. We will begin voting on the First Round of battles.
A Note on the Stages There are seven choices for stages. Rumble Stage: This is a normal soccer/football field. The players must defeat all their opponents. Furnace Stage: This is a rocky field with jets of fire where normally the center line and goals would be in a ball game. The players must defeat all their opponents. Islands Stage: This is a swimming pool with two large islands on each side and three smalls islands in the center. The players must defeat all their opponents. Maze Stage: This is a large steel maze, in which players have to defeat all their opponents and find a way out. Laboratory Stage: The words 'steel cage match' would best describe this stage. It is set and stocked with the normal contents of a college biology laboratory. The players must defeat all their opponents and find a way to either break or deprogram the lock to exit. Forest Stage: A forest of evergreens with a trail horizantally through it. The players must defeat all their opponents. Asteroid Stage: The bottom of Rumble Stage is covered with a tarp that looks like a stary sky. Four rows of three asteroids float above the stage. The players must defeat all their opponents.
1. Team One: *Neon, Shikari, and Quislet vs. Team Five: *Wildfire (Retroboot), Insect Queen (Pre-Crisis), and Polar Boy (Retroboot) on the Islands Stage 2. Team Two: Lightning Lad (Retroboot), Kono (Glorithverse), and *Phantom Girl (Retroboot) vs. Team Eight: Catspaw, Chemical King (Retroboot), and *Mon- El (Retroboot) on Asteroids Stage 3. Team Three: *Sensor Girl (Retroboot), Blok (Retroboot), and Crystal Kid (5 Year Later) vs. Team Twenty-Four: *Cosmic Boy (Retroboot), Duplicate Damsel (Retroboot), and Sun Boy (Retroboot) on Forest Stage 4. Team Four: *Night Girl (Retroboot), Dawnstar (Retroboot), and Monstress vs. Team Nineteen: Fire Lad (Retroboot), *Lightning Lass (Retroboot) and Element Lad (Postboot) on Laboratory Stage 5. Team Six: Kid Psycho (Pre-Crisis), *Rond Vidar (Retroboot), and Echo (5 Year Gap) vs. Team Eighteen: *Invisible Kid II (Retroboot), Elastic Lad (Pre-Crisis), and Shadow Lass (Retroboot on Laboratory Stage 6. Team Seven: Comet Queen (Retroboot), Turtle (Threeboot), and *Kid Quantum I (Glorithverse) vs. Team Sixteen: Timber Wolf (Retroboot), *Brainiac 5 (Postboot) and Gazelle on Maze Stage 7. Team Nine: XS (Retroboot), *Tyroc (Retroboot), and Stone Boy (Retroboot) vs. Team Twelve: White Witch (Pre-Crisis), *Andromeda, and Chlorophyll Kid (Retroboot) on Laboratory Stage 8. Team Ten: Nemesis Kid (Pre-Crisis), Thunder, and *Star Boy (Retroboot) vs. Team Twenty: Gates (Retroboot),Kon-El, and *Computo (SW6) on Islands Stage 9. Team Eleven: Sizzle (Threeboot), Dragonmage (SW6), and *Nightwind （5 Year Gap) vs. Team Twenty-One: *Dream Girl (Retroboot), Storm Boy (5 Year Gap), and Chameleon Boy (Retroboot) on Laboratory Stage 10. Team Thirteen: *Ultra Boy (Retroboot), Spider-Girl (Glorithverse), Shrinking Violet (Postboot) vs. Team Twenty-Three: Matter-Eater Lad (Retroboot), *Bouncing Boy (Retroboot), and Infectious Lass (Retroboot) on Islands Stage 11. Team Fourteen: Chemical Kid (Retroboot), *Impulse (Kent Shakespeare), and Supergirl (Retroboot) vs. Team Fifteen: Tellus (Retroboot), *Kid Quantum II, and Devlin O’Ryan on Rumble Stage 12. Team Seventeen: *Kinetix, Color Kid (Retroboot), and Ferro (Postboot) vs. Team Twenty-Two: Colossal Boy (Retroboot), *Saturn Girl (Retroboot), and Karate Kid (Retroboot) on Forest Stage
Please submit your votes by November 22nd 4:00 P.M Central Time. Let me know your opinions about how characters and teams should be eliminated as well. Do you want teams to be switched up between rounds?
-------------------- Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
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This is the first tournament game I've ever taken part in. Exciting.
Match-ups:
1. *Neon, Shikari & Quislet vs. *Wildfire, Insect Queen & Polar Boy on the Islands Stage
Shikari's abilities seem pretty useless here so it's down to Neon and Quislet versus the others. Neon's Green Lantern ring definitely makes her the most powerful of the characters in the battle but Wildfire is no slouch either and crucially - I can't help but think that all that water in this stage is going to give Polar Boy a winning edge.
*Wildfire, Polar Boy and Insect Queen for the win.
2. *Phantom Girl, Lightning Lad & Kono vs. *Mon- El, Catspaw & Chemical King on the Asteroids Stage
It's interesting that two characters with the exact same powers wound up on the same team. This is a hard fight because two characters on one team are completely untouchable (Phantom Girl and Kono) and two characters on the other team are very powerful (Mon-El and Chemical King). Lightning Lad takes Catspaw out quickly and Mon-El does the same to him leaving the other four. In order to win, Phantom Girl and Kono will have to go solid eventually and Mon-El and Chemical King will be ready for them when they do.
*Mon-El, Catspaw & Chemical King for the win.
3. *Sensor Girl, Blok & Crystal Kid vs. *Cosmic Boy, Duplicate Damsel & Sun Boy on the Forest Stage
This will be a *very* close fight. Blok will get blown off the field quickly by Cosmic Boy and Crystal Kid will negate Duplicate Damsel's power by encasing her in crystal quickly, leaving the other four. Sensor Girl will confuse the other two with one of her illusions however the forest stage gives Sun Boy an advantage since all he has to do is shoot his flames everywhere, burning the trees and smoking the other two out. However, Crystal Kid can use his crystal defensively as well as offensively, shielding him and Sensor Girl long enough for her to shut the other two down.
*Sensor Girl, Blok & Crystal Kid for the win.
4. *Night Girl, Dawnstar & Monstress vs. *Lightning Lass, Fire Lad & Element Lad on the Laboratory Stage
Any team with Element Lad on it will be hard to beat but on this stage and with Lightning Lass and Fire Lad there to help it will be almost impossible. Element Lad turns the ground underneath his team to rubber. Lightning Lass electrifies all the metal around the others. Done.
*Lightning Lass, Fire Lad and Element Lad for the win.
5. *Rond Vidar, Kid Psycho & Echo vs. *Invisible Kid II, Elastic Lad & Shadow Lass on the Laboratory Stage
Is this Rond Vidar as Green Lantern? If so, I can't see any way for the others to beat him, as much as I'd like them to.
*Rond Vidar, Kid Psycho & Echo for the win.
6. *Kid Quantum I, Comet Queen & Turtle vs. *Brainiac 5, Timber Wolf & Gazelle on the Maze Stage
I really have no idea for this one. Brainiac 5's mind will help them get out of the maze but I can't see him being much use in the fight. (If this fight were being held in the Laboratory Stage things would be different.)I can't remember what Turtle and Gazelle's powers were so it's down to Comet Queen and Kid Quantum I vs. Timber Wolf.
*Kid Quantum I, Comet Queen & Turtle for the win.
7. *Tyroc, XS & Stone Boy vs. *Andromeda, White Witch & Chlorophyll Kid on the Laboratory Stage
Two powerful teams here. The Subs won't be much use in this environment which means it's Tyroc and XS vs. Andromeda and White Witch. Wow! Tough call. XS's speed should give her the edge in any fight but Andromeda has it too. With those two battling it out I can't help but think it will come down to White Witch vs. Tyroc and, unfortunately, I think the Witch will have the edge there.
*Andromeda, White Witch & Chlorophyll Kid for the win.
8. *Star Boy, Nemesis Kid & Thunder vs. *Computo, Gates & Kon-El on the Islands Stage
Without her computers, Computo is useless meaning it's 2 vs. 3. Thunder and Kon-el will battle it out leaving Star Boy and Nemesis Kid to be ready for wherever Gates will pop up. And Gates can't do much teleporting while he's as heavy as a mountain.
*Star Boy, Nemesis Kid & Thunder for the win.
9. *Nightwind, Sizzle & Dragonmage vs. *Dream Girl, Storm Boy & Chameleon Boy on the Laboratory Stage
A shame that this fight isn't on one of the other stages to let Nightwind and Storm Boy shine. Since it's inside both are pretty much useless so it's up to their teammates to win the day. Dragonmage's illusions will help but Dream Girl will always know what he and Sizzle are going to do before they do it. Plus, she's handy in a laboratory so who knows what she might quickly cook up in there to give them the edge.
*Dream Girl, Storm Boy & Chameleon Boy for the win.
10. *Ultra Boy, Spider-Girl & Shrinking Violet vs. *Bouncing Boy, Matter-Eater Lad & Infectious Lass on the Islands Stage
This one could go either way. I see tactical ways for both teams to win. Infectious Lass' power would normally be enough to take down most opponents but if Shrinking Violet can shrink down smaller than the microbe particles she can bypass them and then sneak into Infectious Lass to shut her down. Spider Girl's hair could ensnare Bouncing Boy but Matter-Eater Lad could eat through it. I think he'd have a tough time against Ultra Boy though. So...
*Ultra Boy, Spider-Girl & Shrinking Violet for the win.
11. *Impulse (Kent Shakespeare), Chemical Kid & Supergirl vs. *Kid Quantum II, Tellus & Devlin O’Ryan on the Rumble Stage
Two very powerful teams here. Kid Quantum II's time-powers will negate Impulse completely and leave Supergirl unable to use her speed. Chemical Kid will in turn shut down Tellus by disrupting the methane in his helmet leaving it at 2 on 2. Chemical Kid and Kid Quantum II will ill-defined powers themselves out of the fight while Supergirl uses her super-brain, super-breath, super-strength, heat vision or one of her other powers to overcome Devlin O'Ryan.
*Impulse (Kent Shakespeare), Chemical Kid & Supergirl for the win.
12. *Kinetix, Color Kid & Ferro vs. *Saturn Girl, Colossal Boy & Karate Kid on the Forest Stage
This is probably the most one-sided fight in the whole match. Kinetix is obviously the most powerful member of her team and if this fight were held in the Laboratory, say, she'd be a real threat. But since her powers only work on inanimate objects and she's surrounded by living trees here, she's out of luck. Having the greatest telepath in the galaxy and the greatest fighter in the galaxy (along with someone who can become a big, strong giant) as opponents only worsens things for her team. Ferro turns to iron, Colossal Boy steps on him and pins him down. Saturn Girl shuts down Kinetix and Karate Kid zens out and easily bypasses Color Kid's illusions to knock him out. The fight probably lasted 10 seconds.
*Saturn Girl, Colossal Boy & Karate Kid for the win.
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That was fun. Looking forward to reading other people's results.
[ November 21, 2011, 03:52 AM: Message edited by: Blacula ]
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* I'd like the losing team kicked out after every round. Isn't that the only way to eliminate teams anyway? * Or maybe have three match-ups and then kick off whichever teams lost 2 out of the 3. Or will that make the game go on too long and be too much work for you Emily? * Maybe reshuffle the remaining members after every round (or third round if you go with my previous suggestion) but I'm OK with leaving them as they are too. * Can we drop the (Retroboot), (Postboot), etc. identifiers too? There's very little difference between the characters anyway and it's a chore to type/read. * I don't really see the point of team leaders. I see most Legionnaires as more than capable of handling themselves in a fight and the Legion leader only there for operational duties anyway so I don't see what difference they'd make to a fight. I'm happy to keep voting for them if people want to do so though.
[ November 21, 2011, 03:57 AM: Message edited by: Blacula ]
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I'd love for teams to be switched up between rounds, but only if it's not too much trouble for you. Also, how do we decide who the team leader is for each round?
For that matter does the team leader have any effect on the points? Or is it more of, we voters decide ourselves if the team leader will give our chosen team an advantage?
quote:Originally posted by Blacula: 6. *Kid Quantum I, Comet Queen & Turtle vs. *Brainiac 5, Timber Wolf & Gazelle on the Maze Stage
I really have no idea for this one. Brainiac 5's mind will help them get out of the maze but I can't see him being much use in the fight. (If this fight were being held in the Laboratory Stage things would be different.)I can't remember what Turtle and Gazelle's powers were so it's down to Comet Queen and Kid Quantum I vs. Timber Wolf.
Blacula, that's Postboot Brainiac 5, meaning he has forcefield powers. He can reshape his forcefields at will - this incarnation of Brainy was one of the most powerful on the Postboot team.
quote:Originally posted by Blacula: * Can we drop the (Retroboot), (Postboot), etc. identifiers too? There's very little difference between the characters anyway and it's a chore to type/read.
I agree that most can be dropped, but not all. Postboot Violet and Brainiac 5, for example, had very different powersets. Violet could grow, and Brainy had forcefield powers.
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