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Thing to remember here (and I have not read the issue yet, as I am waaaay behind) is that these are not the heroes we used to know...(cue song).
From: Turn around... | Registered: Jul 2003
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Just as the original Earth-Two itself had some intriguing differences from our own world (South Africa getting rid of apartheid earlier, Quebec leaving Canada), the new Earth-2 seems to have a few of its own quirks as well. It'll be interesting to see where Robinson goes with stuff like a global military force and other things that happened as a result of the Apocalypse invasion.
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From: Stuck in the Psychedelic Era | Registered: Jan 2010
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quote:Originally posted by Shining Son: Oh, right. Didn't realize the Peter Cannon thing you mentioned was not a reprint, or that Dynamite has the rights to him now.
The issue contains two stories. One is brand new by Darnall, Ross, and Lau.
The second is an ashcan story that Peter Cannon's creator, Pete Morisi, prepared for DC for a Secret Origins issue that never saw print. Apparently, Morisi retained rights over the character that the creators of other Charlton heroes didn't. This led to a delay in DC's plans to reintroduce him with the other Charlton characters. By the time a deal was struck, DC had moved another direction. Morisi passed away in 2003 and it looks like Dynamite has entered into a contract with his estate.
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From: Missouri | Registered: Oct 2003
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Interesting. Thanks for posting that Jerry.
There was an invasion from Apocalyse on Earth 2? Does this mean there are w (or more) Darkseids? Or that the Fourth Worlds has access to the Multiverse and operates on all earths, or at least those in which they are interested?
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Wasn't it already the case pre-Crisis that the Fourth World operated across all the universes? I seem to remember hearing that a loooooonnnnggg time ago. (I think it might have even come up in the Crisis?)
It makes sense when you think about it.
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Yes, but either makes sense. (And it's not as if sense is always the guiding principle anyway.)
Major powers, such as the Guardians, that have been around for millions of years either have no apparent interest OR counterparts in other Earths.
Seems to me that with many Earths, either Darkseid would have found that only ONE had the proper Anti-Life Equation, or he would have succeeded in obtaining it by now. With so many targets, it's exponentially harder for the forces of New Genesis to protect them. And not every Earth's heroes can be as competent as ours. :-)
In fact, I also wonder... if Darkseid is supposed to have been around so long (or at least he thinks he has been), why did he wait till the Age of Heroes to start messing about on Earth?
Anyway, either story they want to tell is fine, but hopefully editorial will pick one and stick with it instead of a confusing mess.
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Hmm... the plot of the JLA/JSA/New Gods crossover involves Darkseid moving Apokolips into Earth-2's place, so that he could conquer a universe without Old Gods or New Gods to thwart him. That seems to suggest that it has a different relationship to Earth-1 than to the other Earths, though it's not exactly definitive.
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Can someone explain the gist of what happened with the 0 issue? Totally don't understand Terry Sloane's behaviour! He's known as Mr. 8?
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The people of the four or five locations that got blowed up at the end had been mind-controlled / anti-life-equationed by Darkseid, and Sloane arranged for the stuff meant to shut down the machines to instead cause them to explode, both to eliminate the threat, to keep the other heroes from getting diverted into trying to save them, and to 'show' Darkseid what lengths humanity would go to repel his advances.
That's what I got from it, although it was not a story that really resonated with me, since it wasn't a version of the character I had any connection to, and therefore came across as less of an Earth 2 story, and more of a 'fanfic.'
It was a little too 'Sloane as Ozymandius,' and, while comics are 100% repeating the same cool stories over and over (sometimes even with the same characters), Ozy's shoes are too big to fill with a character that has just been introduced (and Earth 2 is only, what, four issues out of the box?, and really hasn't had time to grow on us...), IMO, and that sort of magic can't be captured in a one-issue story.
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quote:Originally posted by Shining Son: Yes, but either makes sense. (And it's not as if sense is always the guiding principle anyway.)
Major powers, such as the Guardians, that have been around for millions of years either have no apparent interest OR counterparts in other Earths.
Seems to me that with many Earths, either Darkseid would have found that only ONE had the proper Anti-Life Equation, or he would have succeeded in obtaining it by now. With so many targets, it's exponentially harder for the forces of New Genesis to protect them. And not every Earth's heroes can be as competent as ours. :-)
In fact, I also wonder... if Darkseid is supposed to have been around so long (or at least he thinks he has been), why did he wait till the Age of Heroes to start messing about on Earth?
Anyway, either story they want to tell is fine, but hopefully editorial will pick one and stick with it instead of a confusing mess.
While I'm still trying to scrub it from my brain, I do seem to recall from the JL story that Darkseid isn't explicitly seeking Anti-Life, but is jumping from world to world looking for his daughter. Have they mentioned Anti-Life at all in the Nu52?
From: Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada | Registered: Sep 2004
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quote:Originally posted by Set: It was a little too 'Sloane as Ozymandius,' and, while comics are 100% repeating the same cool stories over and over (sometimes even with the same characters), Ozy's shoes are too big to fill with a character that has just been introduced (and Earth 2 is only, what, four issues out of the box?, and really hasn't had time to grow on us...), IMO, and that sort of magic can't be captured in a one-issue story.
My problem was that Batman is that character in many ways already, especially seeing them together slinging high technology at Para Demons. That alone was enough to make me put it back on the shelf.
Its like evil Tony Stark Deus ex machina vs. good Tony Stark Deus ex Mmachina. Its not interesting when there is one of them, much less two.
It so annoyed me, Because these types of characters are so over exposed, I put it back on the shelf.
Soon, instead of 20 batman titles (and/or wolverine titles) its going to be 20 batman titles where he fights evil versions of himself!
there's a satire waiting to happen in there somewhere.
In the Anti-Matter Universe ALL comicbooks are Batman or Wolverine titles and they fight each other!
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