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I get the feeling that Jack is going to be put through the ringer in this season in much the same way as Locke was last season. If you consider where he's at, he basically just knowingly led his friends into a trap with a plan that seems to have completely failed. It's kind of natural that he'd be remembering his marriage, which he considers one of his great failures, at this point.
I think that Sarah seriously misunderstands Jack, seeing only his obsessive need to be fixing something (and realizing that he neglected her once she no longer needs fixing), but seems to miss the underlying fact that this need is based upon this feeling that no matter what he does, he's never going to feel like he's good enough.
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i watched it on abc.com too! (not so into Lost after season 2) going to do that for battlestar galactica in a couple of days. tried to catch episode 2 of heroes on the internet but the connection was wonky.
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quote:Originally posted by He Who Wanders: Yes, but that misses the point that it wasn't Jack's business.
I dunno -- if my wife were cheating on me, I'd say the guy she's cheating with becomes my business. The second the divorce is final, whomever she dates will no longer be my business. But that's my point of view...
It'll be interesting if Jack's "breakthrough" at the end will actually lead to a change. Could one of them end up joining the Others of their own free will? Is that even what they want?
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quote:Originally posted by LARDLAD: Thanks for the tip, EDE--I just watched the ep on ABC.com!
Pretty groovy, huh? I've missed a lot of "Lost", so I'm far from an expert. So what did happen with Ethan and the "other guy"?
LARDY--
Long story short, Ethan and the other guy (can't remember his name at the moment) mingled with the survivors of the plane crash (as the fuselage and tail wound up on different parts of the island). They gathered intel on the castaways and reported it back to Ben and "the Others". Ethan kidnapped Claire because the Others thought the baby she was about to have was special. Both were eventually revealed as being outsiders and they were both killed.
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From: Santa Ana, CA | Registered: Jul 2003
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I've been thinking a lot about how Jack was flipping out about the Others (as opposed to his flipping out about his wife, which is something else entirely), and then I suddenly recalled what Jack might be thinking of:
- the killed one of the survivors early on - they hung Charlie from a tree and left him to die - they kidnapped a pregnant girl (Claire) - they kidnapped a young boy (Walt) - they blackmailed one of the most reliable survivors into betraying them and killing two of their own - and thus are responsible for two more deaths (Ana Lucia and Libby) - they generally have screwed with them from the beginning
It reminded me of Said's speech to Charlie in Season two explaining why he was willing to torture Henry Gale/Ben. With all that in context, I'd pretty much be ready to kill all the Others too at this point. Its easy to forget that sometimes when I'm watching the show thinking "try and get some answers Jack!"
And it looks like we'll see Sun, Jin and Said next episode, but I'm really dying to see Locke and Eko!
From: If you don't want my peaches, honey... | Registered: Sep 2003
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They won't be back until the third episode, I'm afraid. The second episode was supposed to be Locke-centric, but someone changed the order at the last minute.
I loved this episode, even though I can't watch it again because I screwed up the recording time. (On dial-up I can't watch it on ABC.com, either. )
I'm most worried about Kate. Something had to happen to scrape her wrists up like that. (I heard someplace that they had to cut 20 minutes out of the ep, so who knows what we've missed.) Some people are saying that the needle mark on her arm looks infected and are wondering if she has, or if the Others are telling her she has, the "sickness" the french lady's always talking about. The Others burned her clothes, too. They didn't do that to Jack and Sawyer.
I really enjoyed the interaction between Jack and Juliet this ep. He finally seems to have chemistry with a lady. Third time's a charm, I guess. I liked him a lot more in this episode, too. I think it's because I finally feel that the writers are willing to take risks with his character.
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quote:Originally posted by Arachne: I really enjoyed the interaction between Jack and Juliet this ep. He finally seems to have chemistry with a lady.
I hadn't really thought about it, but you're right. I think it might be the fact that between Kate, his ex-wife and Ana this is the first time Jack is actually vulnerable - where he's not so in charge. It allows for more back and forth and and actual effort to relate where before Jack never had to be a little powerless (or they're just breaking him down -- it's a fine line...)
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All right, so is there anybody left in this show who hasn't killed somebody? At the moment I can only think of Locke, Claire, Rose and Bernard. And maybe Jin. Wait, what about Charlie? Has he killed anybody?
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For Kate going home whould mean going to jail, so I don't think it could be that simple. I think they're more likely to be threatening her to get her to do something from them.
Sun really is Daddy's little girl, isn't she?
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Having missed most of the first two seasons, I was wondering how much of Sun's and Jin's history hadbeen revealed before. Was this a first time reveal of the affair (and possible/probable baby paternity problem) and the shady nature of Sun's pop? What kind of details had been revealed on them in the past?
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From: The Underbelly of Society | Registered: Jul 2003
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quote:Originally posted by Doctor One: All right, so is there anybody left in this show who hasn't killed somebody? At the moment I can only think of Locke, Claire, Rose and Bernard. And maybe Jin. Wait, what about Charlie? Has he killed anybody?
Charlie killed Ethan, who had abducted Claire and had returned to get her again.
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I think besides Rose and Bernard, Locke might be the only one who hasn't killed anyone. But I feel like he most likely has that we just don't know about, given the nature of Locke's past.
Wow, what an episode! Another very strong start to Season Three! Thoughts:
- Kate and Sawyer - great scenes! Really nice to see and the chemistry between them is stronger than ever.
- Jack seeing what's been happening in the real world - another powerful scene. You can really see Jack's reaction and how this completely changes everything he's thought about so far. Leaving it up to us per what's going on his head (right now at least) is well-done too. I know he must be conflicted.
- Ben Linus (Henry Gale) remains ultra-creepy and full of mystery. I really hope we get an episode for *his* story, like we did Desmond. Especially the 'I've lived on this island my whole life'.
- The Other's main female (forget her name, but I think its obvious she's up there in psuedo-rank) is also very interesting. Sawyer saying she would have definately killed Kate makes her even more so.
- Jin and Sun are still two of my favorites. I agree Al, Sun really *is* Daddy's little girl! The whole theme of being honest and how despite how far their relationship has been mended and moved forward since their time on the island, Sun (and Jin) still needs to go one step further in regards to being honest.
- Sayid was prominent in the episode, but down-played. That's alright though, because he's still in kick-ass Sayid mode, and there isn't one of us I bet for one second that didn't realize he was ready to spring a trap.
- Also: Desmond next episode!! I couldn't believe it! I thought for sure he was dead after last season but am thrilled he's not. I *really* like this character. I think him, Locke and Eko are the three most interesting of the whole bunch and I can't wait to see their story. I get the feeling that while the Others are the central theme/plot of Season Three, the mystery of the island itself will continue to be revealed via Locke/Eko/Desmond (and Charlie and others too, but their role in the stories is usually different). I can't wait for next week to see them all.
What are the chances of the Lost team giving the fans a treat and revealing a big secret early on? I'm hoping for a complete explanation (well, as complete as Lost ever gives ) on the monster by the mid-point of the season.
These early ones are so good that I'm already dying for Season Three's DVD, so I can watch five episodes at a clip
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