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Of all the Wonder Woman series over the years that I've sampled, this is the most interesting - largely because of the gods (very Greek Street, although I abandoned that series). I just wonder where it's going to go - will it be a on-going series of stories in which Diana has to deal with the interference of her god-relatives in human affairs, or will they recede into the background?

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I'm enjoying the facts presented that Diana ISN'T an ambassador from the Amazons and that she has a father, a direct and powerful being, even though he's missing.

That's interesting info, Cobie, abouit the Romans taking on stealing dieties, especially if they won.

Greeks just had the various gods choose sides in conflicts.
The Romans had such egos!
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Yet they valued some forms of humility- especially in the pre-Empire centuries (the period that's most ignored by fiction-writers... I wish DC would reintroduce Alpha-Centurion or the Son of Vulcan or someone and have them come from Rome's ideologically best years.)

I want Donna Troy back- maybe as the Roman gods answer to Diana? Or Trojan goddesses? Yeah, the Trojan ones. And Cassie could be associated with the Roman versions. Nubia for the Egyptians... Artemis for the Celts (renamed Morrigan or something, I guess).

Did anyone else find Poseidon's debut funny? What about Hades?

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Originally posted by Mystery Lad:
I want Donna Troy back- maybe as the Roman gods answer to Diana? Or Trojan goddesses? Yeah, the Trojan ones. And Cassie could be associated with the Roman versions. Nubia for the Egyptians... Artemis for the Celts (renamed Morrigan or something, I guess).

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I haven't read the 52 version of the Titans yet, but I think Cassie is in it.
I just don't know if she has a connection to the Greek gods, Zeus in particular, or not.

And we might have seen Nubia and Artemis as Amazons already, but I think that they weren't named, IIRC.
Did the Amazons get turned into snakes?
[shrug]

I'd like ML's idea though, too.
Who are the Trojan deities, the ones that are preGreek, like Phoebe and the others that have been originally associated with Donna?

I'd certainly like her to be independent of Diana in her origin, that's for sure.
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There's going to be another Wonder Woman on Earth 2, which comes out in a mont or so!

I like the Jim Lee design, even though she still has a strapless bustier to fight in.
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The Amazon sons story was sad but something that they historically seemed to have done.

I hope Cupid sticks around. I like him, even though his power seems to have a monkey paw quality to it.
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#7 was 20 pages of perfection!

This revamped version of WW is the first time I've been able to read an entire issue of WW w/o falling asleep half way through.

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#7 was a great story. Nasty about the Amazons' boy babies - although girl babies are aborted or destroyed in our world even today - and even more cruel about the fathers; that seemed unnecessary, but we're not dealing with Paradise and love with this bunch of Amazons. Yet Diana herself shows great compassion to people. What made her different?

I liked Cupid too. That opening scene was a good illustration of watch what you pray for - and that love isn't all hearts and cherubs.

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When I first read the Amazons as murdering rapists, I was revolted. As Shady mentioned, that sort of thing is associated with some accounts of 'historical' Amazons, so it isn't plucked from the ether.

Also, WW and we are getting the story from a god- clearly not to be shown as all that reliable a narrator in this series. Except Hermes. Who is a trickster.

So, I don't know how much the tale will stand.

I did find the 'wonder boys' characterization and devotion to 'master' interesting. I wish one of them had felt differently.

Again, I find the story itself very well-written and entertaining. I always like Hephasteus-- and this Eros is fun. But the ramifications for this earth's Amazons is almost too much to take, for someone who liked very much previous versions of the concept (not that pretty much every version didn't have their own 'dark aspects').

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Does this aspect of the Amazons mean that they aren't 'immortal' like they've been before?
Or does it mean that a lot of the Amazons get killed in combat for some reason?

We haven't seen that these are in any way superior beings, really, no purple ray or invisible plane, that I remember anyway.

I haven't read all of Diana's Justice League yet and I'd have to go over WW issues again to see about the plane.
It's funny that the plane has completely skipped my mind, since it was always such a part of Diana's persona.
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It's sad, and shocking, what people can get used to, without knowing any better.


I read the Kanigher-Andru WW. And the Thomas-Colan WW, the Mishkin-Cohn-Colan WW, the Mishkin-Heck WW, the Perez WW, some of what came later, and the Byrne WW.


THEN I read the Golden Age WW ARCHIVES.


WOW. F***ING WOW.


I suddenly realized... this was "it". And NOTHING ELSE ever, ever had been. Even the George Perez run was CRAP-- BY COMPARISON.


It's like... for the sake of example... PEANUTS.


You could take 50 of the very best writers and artists on the planet, and set them loose on doing that strip. And their work could be magnificent, stunning, gorgeous, compelling, gripping, hilarious, thought-provoking, or even all of the above. And it JUST WOULDN'T MATTER. Because no matter what they did... it wouldn't be "the real thing".


And WW has not been "the real thing" since her original creators passed away.

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All I can think of when I see Hades is Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast!
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