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We'll have to check with Cobie about Lasso & Hummingbird's status as historic villains, as this is the longest Ive ever followed a HAWK-book (all 40 issues... sure am glad I made it through those issues Geoff Johns was apparently phoning in, 'cause this book has been H-O-T for a while now).
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I think that Hummingbird and Lasso are newest villains....Cobie, hurry up on your research!
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guess I may be wrong this time...according to google.com and I found that there was a Hummingbird during the golden age time....she first appeared in Flash Comics #52!
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hey looks like I am wrong for the second time! here is the list of Hawkman's foes and their first appearances...and Lasso is on the list:
Hawkman the Acrobat (Flash #89; Hawkman foe) - hooded leader of gang of acrobats. Alexander the Great (Flash #2; Hawkman foe) - egghead in tuxedo; has a gravity-ray gun. Armond Argot (Flash #26; Hawkman foe). the Beanstalk (Flash #61; Hawkman foe) - powers? Benjamin Brock (Flash #29; Hawkman foe) - criminal botanist that animates plant-men. Chance (Flash #37; Hawkman foe) - bald; evil genius; owns crooked gambling den; always calculates odds. Coin (Flash #32; Hawkman foe) - clever thief; uses coins to distract & for gimmicks - heated coins, electrified, etc. Dr. Barnes (Flash #94; Hawkman foe) - uses an molecular rearranger to project people into fabrics and then re-animate them. Dynamo (Flash #49; Hawkman foe) - glows in the dark; electricity powers. Father Time (Flash #33; Hawkman foe) - old man with poisoned scythe. the Foil (Flash #87; Hawkman foe) - wields a foil; swordsman, presumably; any powers? Gentleman Ghost (Flash #88; Hawkman foe). Golden Mummy sect (Steranko; Hawkman foe) - powers? Anton Hastor (Flash Comics #1; Hawkman foe) - scientist, astral projection the Hood (Flash #19; Hawkman foe) - Pratt Palmer wears monk costume; uses superscience - the "cold light" killing radiation gun. Horsemen of the Sky (Flash #93; Hawkman foes) - bandits on flying horses. Hot Shot (Big All-American #1; Hawkman foe) - feeds on and manipulates massive amounts of heat. Human Fly Bandits (Flash #100; Hawkman foe) - led by John Rotor, lab assistant, who stole "gyrocar" and "gyrobelt" which allow him to drive/run up walls, etc. the Hummingbird (Flash #52; Hawkman foe) - blonde female ornithologist; wing-suit; flight; magnesium flare-gun. Karvak (Flash #14; Hawkman foe) - owns futuristic suit; has conjured up Scorio, the Alligator God of Phoenicians to give him high-tech weaponry - a disintegration-flame gun; has small army in Central America. Kogats (Flash #9; Hawkman foe) - evil ape-like telepathic undersea brutes that live underneath New York City harbor. Johnny Law (Flash #31; Hawkman foe) - crook with animated creations. Lasso (Flash #85; Hawkman foe) - ruthless strangler. Leader of the Assassin Cult at Alamut (Flash #6; Hawkman foe) - Assassins analogue. Mangar (Flash #28; Hawkman foe) - crooked scientist. March, Danford (Flash #49; Hawkman foe) - electrified human dynamo. Mazda the Great (All-Star Comics #3; Hawkman foe) - builds steam generator within volcanic Mount Krakatao to harness its power for world domination; commands "fire-ghosts" (actually men in asbestos suits). the Monocle (Flash #64). Nikaloff, Boris (Flash #7; Hawkman foe) - makes "plasma-flesh" sculptures come to life. Nyola (All-Star Comics #2; Hawkman foe) - Aztec priestess; magic spells. Phantom Menace (Flash #91; Hawkman foe) - commits crimes with Dexium, a compound that makes things invisible and intangible. Pied Piper (Flash #59; Hawkman foe) - musical powers? Plant Men (Flash #29; Hawkman foe) - plant-men, rooted, with superstrength; orchid types with poison gas; live undersea; multiple types. Prof. Kitzoff (Flash #8; Hawkman foe) - has raygun that causes sunspots that can control mankind's thoughts, manipulate emotions, etc. Purple Pilgrim (Flash #86; Hawkman foe) - descendent of 17th century criminal continuing family vendetta against all Sanderses, including Shiera. Radium (Flash #54; Hawkman foe) - steals radium; makes radium bullets. Raven (Flash Wheaties Giveaway 1946; Hawkman foe) - flight; "Scavenger of the Skies". Satana (Flash #13; Hawkman foe) - Sara Descarl owns man-eating menagerie of animals into which she has transplanted men's brains. Simple Simon (Flash #53; Hawkman foe) - uses "simple" gimmicks to commit crimes - a glass, a dime, etc. Soro (Flash #96; Hawkman foe) - warlord of a race of power-hungry centaurs who have been secluded in a dormant volcano for millennia; they kidnap a group of the United States' greatest scientists with the intent of using them "to invent weapons to terrorize the world.". The Spoiler (Golden Age #1; Hawkman foe) - fifth columnist; death ray. Thayer, Edward (Flash #15; Hawkman foe) - commands a disembodied hand. Thought Terror (Flash #4; Hawkman foe) - hypnosis. Trygg (All-Star Comics #1; Hawkman foe) - sorceror who learned the Haitian secret of zombies.
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Awesome stuff Supes! I was going to say that they were both new villains too, as they definately have not been around since the Silver Age on. I think it's pretty kewl that their both Golden Age villains brought back to fight Hawkman and Hawkgirl.
Their also both pretty bad-ass! I know Lionmane is probably Hawkman's most classic Silver Age foe, but when did Fadeaway Man first appear?
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Cobie, according to The Unofficial Guide to the DC Universe, Fadeaway Man made his debut in Detective Comics #479/2 (September-October 1978): "True Heroes Never Die...!"
Thanks for the list, superboymddjr-- I thought the following were worth some consideration.
Alexander the Great (Flash #2; Hawkman foe) - egghead in tuxedo; has a gravity-ray gun.
I wonder if he committed historic Alex the Great crimes? I'd be interested in an update, if so.
the Beanstalk (Flash #61; Hawkman foe) - powers?
C'mon-- The BEANSTALK!! Who could resist updating a villain called The Beanstalk?
Benjamin Brock (Flash #29; Hawkman foe) - criminal botanist that animates plant-men.
Hmmm... a tie in to Black Orchid or Poison Ivy? Or the LSH's various evil plant/tree men?
Dr. Barnes (Flash #94; Hawkman foe) - uses an molecular rearranger to project people into fabrics and then re-animate them.
What a cool gimmick. The name's comletely generic. The Tapestry? The Fabricator? There's certainly villains with lamer m.o.s running around in tights.
Father Time (Flash #33; Hawkman foe) - old man with poisoned scythe.
Sounds familiar... I wonder if he's been updated somewhere or other already?
the Foil (Flash #87; Hawkman foe) - wields a foil; swordsman, presumably; any powers?
Good name for a villain-- though the aluminum foil hats worn to ward off aliens is an unfortunate connotation that came to my mind.
Golden Mummy sect (Steranko; Hawkman foe) - powers?
A hero based on the idea of reincarnation dating back to Egypt has *gotta* have a mummy for a villain.
Horsemen of the Sky (Flash #93; Hawkman foes) - bandits on flying horses.
Interesting visual- at the least. Maybe a Western motif?
The Hummingbird in the book now seems much closer to the edge of sanity than this little summary would suggest. I'm a little surprised her wings are artificial-- if they still are.
Karvak (Flash #14; Hawkman foe) - owns futuristic suit; has conjured up Scorio, the Alligator God of Phoenicians to give him high-tech weaponry - a disintegration-flame gun; has small army in Central America.
The Phoenician connection would work for the historian Hawks. Why would an Alligator God have high-tech weapons, though?
Kogats (Flash #9; Hawkman foe) - evil ape-like telepathic undersea brutes that live underneath New York City harbor.
Must-be-updated-immediately!!! With a Flash/Aquaman/Gorilla City crossover!!!
Johnny Law (Flash #31; Hawkman foe) - crook with animated creations.
An evil Walt Disney? Could be fun--
Mazda the Great (All-Star Comics #3; Hawkman foe) - builds steam generator within volcanic Mount Krakatao to harness its power for world domination; commands "fire-ghosts" (actually men in asbestos suits).
Strike out the 'actually men in asbestos suits', and you could have a contender. He could get in a 'name war' with pseudoAlex.
Nikaloff, Boris (Flash #7; Hawkman foe)- makes "plasma-flesh" sculptures come to life.
I'm curious as to just what a 'plasma-flesh sculpture' might be.
As much as I like the current Piper, you'd think that I'd know he had a GA counterpart. But I didn't. I'm quite surprised he debuted as a Hawkman villain, rather than a Flash rogue.
Plant Men (Flash #29; Hawkman foe) - plant-men, rooted, with superstrength; orchid types with poison gas; live undersea; multiple types.
Link 'em up with Benjamen Brock and/or The Beanstalk and Kogats.
Prof. Kitzoff (Flash #8; Hawkman foe) - has raygun that causes sunspots that can control mankind's thoughts, manipulate emotions, etc.
Professor Kitz-off??!!! Hee-hee-- enforced nudity!
Purple Pilgrim (Flash #86; Hawkman foe) - descendent of 17th century criminal continuing family vendetta against all Sanderses, including Shiera.
The PURPLE PILGRIM!!!??? BWAHAHAHAHA! Make him come from San Francisco and have a thing for winged leather-men.
Raven (Flash Wheaties Giveaway 1946; Hawkman foe) - flight; "Scavenger of the Skies".
A possible Teen Titan connection?
Satana (Flash #13; Hawkman foe) - Sara Descarl owns man-eating menagerie of animals into which she has transplanted men's brains.
Ick-- creepy. I actually prefer the demented scientist chick to the pseudo-sorceress she appears to be currently.
Simple Simon (Flash #53; Hawkman foe) - uses "simple" gimmicks to commit crimes - a glass, a dime, etc.
Maybe too gimmicky, but SIMPLE SIMON appeals to me as a name for a villain.
Soro (Flash #96; Hawkman foe) - warlord of a race of power-hungry centaurs who have been secluded in a dormant volcano for millennia; they kidnap a group of the United States' greatest scientists with the intent of using them "to invent weapons to terrorize the world."
Wow. I think that sounds like a great character-- with Wonder Woman connections?
The Spoiler (Golden Age #1; Hawkman foe) - fifth columnist; death ray.
Maybe this guy's why Batman was so suspicious of Stephanie Brown?
Thayer, Edward (Flash #15; Hawkman foe) - commands a disembodied hand.
Unattached mobile body parts are always worth a look.
Thought Terror (Flash #4; Hawkman foe) - hypnosis.
All these riches and *this* guy gets updated?
Trygg (All-Star Comics #1; Hawkman foe) - sorceror who learned the Haitian secret of zombies.
Wasn't this the name of an Hourman villain? Oh, wait-- was that Trogg? Not into zombies, really-- but a zombie-creator might make a good foe.
We'll probably never see them, but I think the plant-related bloc, Dr. Barnes (THE FABRICATOR!), KOGATS, MAZDA THE GREAT (Hmmm- now *he* sounds familiar-- has he appeared sometime in the last couple of decades?), the PHANTOM MENACE, the PURPLE PILGRIM, SATANA (CIRCEish), and SORO THE CENTAUR are update-worthy.
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Race of Centaurs in a dormant volcano? Yes, yes, yes!
Todd, you're thoughts on the villains are as entertaining to read as the villains themselves
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The name and Aztec connection seem familiar. I'm pretty sure she's appeared outside of the GA.
IIRC, the Silver-Age Hawkman fought her (or someone very much like her) in Justice League of America shortly after he joined the team.
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Nyola also appeared in All Star Squadron...just before #50 - a member of Monster Society of Evil, as I recalled.
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