quote:Originally posted by Pov: I was looking around for the status of Trom in the Legion-Prime's era. I didn't remember any reference to it in the actual WaK issues. I checked a Wiki listing for Jan Arrah and the WaK version was listed as "the sole survivor of a lost planet", referencing Action Comics #850. Can anyone verify this please?
Based on my 3Boot EL page here. Trom's fate was never discussed during the Wak years. I don't recall Shooter adding anything to Jan besides his stinky pet and his rebound girlfriend after the Trips disappeared.
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Thanks, Gar. I just had this idea percolating... if there were other Tromians with Jan's abilities in the Prime uni, the Prime Legion could get another transmuter, OR Brainy Prime could conceivably work out time travel from his exposure to the other Brainy's and they'd travel back to the present universe of E-P and train a Tromian to housesit SBP... That's why I was curious as to what the actual ACT #850 ref was...
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Notice he has four arms above. Just like in his first appearance -
And to make life easy for me, here's the pages used to explain the name "Dr.Gym'll's Cultural Rarities." Notice that Giffen always drew him with three arms -
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According to LEGION COMPANION, Mike Grell was. Don't know what Cary Bates thinks about him.
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Well, according to the information, I fail to understand why the editors kept blocking the writers efforts to add black Legionnaires until they HAD to create Tyroc.
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Many people want to believe that omission of black characters in American comics was something of an oversight, a sign of the times, or just reflective of the larger culture. It was deliberate choice during the 60's, when the Legion headlined Adventure Comics. DC editorial was afraid that comics with black characters would be pulled from the shelves of stores in parts of America, specifically in the South. That would have impacted sales. It was a very conscious racist business decision. Remember, this was the era in which some network affiliates refused to air Star Trek episodes because of an interracial kiss.
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The comics industry, however, has always been behind the times in reflecting cultural changes. This is not the same as pop culture fads such as disco or kung fu movies, which have a way of creeping into comics much sooner. But significant social and political changes take longer. Well into the '70s, most super-hero teams still had only one token female, for example.
Tyroc was, in my opinion, an attempt to be "relevant" by creating a black character, but his creators and company probably had little idea how to actually go about creating such a character. They relied on popular stereotypes: the disco costume with chains, the angry young black attitude. It is probably because of these stereotypes that Tyroc became an embarrassment to DC and all but vanished from Legion stories after his first three appearances.
The third appearance, by the way, was an egregious example of bad taste. The cover of SUPERBOY # 222 shows Superboy and Ultra Boy flying with a manacled and gagged Tyroc--hardly an image conducive to race relations of the time.
Was the racism intentional? Perhaps, perhaps not. But it was a very real, ingrained aspect of American culture, and DC blunderingly made it worse in their misguided attempt to make it better.
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That's why I was curious as to what the actual ACT #850 ref was...
