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Well, cheerleaderss were underpants instead of 'panties'. I'd think it would be the same thing.
All I'm really saying is that it beats the unitard look. Yeah, they could lose the starry bottom fringe, but other than that, it looks pretty good, seems like it would be a lot less restrictive and definitly represents a change.
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Let's keep Donna's skirt in context, guys. I don't think it is any way intended to replace the sleek black and star field uni as her super hero costume. It's the outfit she will be wearing for the battle to come on Themyscira.
Diana has different outfits that she wears in different settings, and typically does not stay in the Wonder Woman costume when she is on the island for extended periods. Remember the Perez designed skirt she used to wear sometimes?
Take a closer look at issue #38. Most of the characters, men included, are wearing skirts. Lopresti is definitely going for a "period piece" feel as opposed to titillation or sexualization of the characters. I like the black, blue and silver color scheme. Donna's look fits in well with the rest of the cast in the context of this story
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They've been playing with the WW look since Gail and Aaron came on board. Between the elseworld beats and the to-war outfits, I'm glad to see them experimenting with the look of Diana and her comrades.
Donna's skirt is a bit impractical, but this is a super-hero comic book. I like the look- it maintains some continuity and still signifies a more drastic approach than her usual body suit.
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Thumbs down from me for Wonder Woman: Blackest Night #2. It reminds me of why I am so fatigued by DC Crossover events. The Nicola Scott artwork is still excellent. The story is just plain weak. I've been reading on the message boards how incredible Mera is in Blackest Night, so I was interested in seeing her in this story. Well, I wasn't that impressed. The story made it seem like Mera and Wonder Woman are great friends, almost best of friends. Where did that come from? I agree that they should be friends and the friendship would have a very interesting dynamic. I've been a Wonder Woman fan for a long time. The relationship was overstated.
The imaginary battles and deaths of Cassie, Donna, and Hyppolyta were just messed up. Pointless and gruesome. They all came across as really petty. I guess catty comments still count as characterization for female characters? Come on, Rucka. You can do better than that.
And now, we're supposed to believe that this secret love that Diana harbors for Batman is key to bringing her back from the dark side? I'm confused and insulted. It makes no sense and DC writers have got to quit treating Diana as an appendage for Superman and Batman.
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Well, I loved the conclusion of this arc. I always love 'come together' plots- especially ones that don't utilize new-agey 'focus your will together' kind of resolutions pulled from some magic book or other.
I hope to see Achilles in a variety of settings in the future. If there was any justice, *he'd* get a new series instead of that nabob, Magog.
It was gratifying to see Alkyone 'get hers', but I hope she somehow survives, as villainesses you love to hate are the rarest creatures in comics. I mean, would anyone want to see her 'reform'? Don't get me wrong, I *like* redemptive character turns (Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye, Piper, Catwoman) as much as I dislike their opposites-- but *every* villainess doesn't have to turn good. Or even show shades of gray (though I'll never criticize *that* segment of the color wheel). Here's hoping Alkyone turns up again and again, with ever loonier plots in that bald head of hers!
From: Knoxville, TN | Registered: Jul 2003
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Well I thought this has been a pretty weak string of Wonder Woman issues for some time now but the final story of this arc (#39) was actually a strong step in the right direction. I haven't really found this story to interesting at all and that's my biggest complaint; yet here Gail shows off her writing skills at bringing the events to such a strong close that I sat back and took notice.
One complaint I just can't stop having is the continued use of Zues here (and in Hercules too). Enough is enough and kill the bastard off already. He's such a weak, useless character that I can't stand him. I think that's a major longtime problem with Wonder Woman's series: the Greek Gods are pretty annoying for me and no one can ever get them right. I prefer the other characters of myth, including Achilles and legendary heroes, but actual longtime "Gods" (re: not character raised to Godhood) always seem to blunder around.
Achilles, on the other hand, had a great role here. I'd like to see his continued involvement in Diana's life.
Alkyone is probably the best Wonder Woman villain to be invented since the 1940's. Great, great new character (I assume Gail created her in her first arc).
Aaron Lopresti's work is just great and if it wasn't for that earlier in the arc I'd probably have never bothered to read the end. Plus, he draws totally awesome Megaladon sharks.
Now I hope Gail uses this momentum to move things along and get back on track. I'm groaning about the oncoming Ares story (yet another character no WW writer has ever gotten right IMO) but hopefully there will be some other things before that hits.
From: If you don't want my peaches, honey... | Registered: Sep 2003
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Gail's been telling a long story since she came on board, in the same vein as John's or Bendis. It's been enjoyable seeing someone take time to build (rebuild) Diana's world. Since Amazons Attack, her world has been in disarray. With her run, Gail's brought back the fantastical excitement of Paradise Island, showing us what an intriguing life she has on Themyscira.
It's been a bit heavy on the mythology yes. But it's given Lopresti opportunities to draw some amazing art. From Diana's varying looks to Poseidon's creatures, to Achilles' warriors, it's all been a pleasure to look at.
With the new issue of Wonder Woman, we get a new storyline. And no more Zeus, no more Achilles, no more Amazons attacking, Gail's brought Diana back to DC (Washington that is.) She sets up a story focusing on different prejudices, instigated by a trio/quartet? of prep school kids with some cool nicknames.
I know folks had an issue with the Greek stuff, here's something a little more modern for you all.
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I love the mythology and would eat it up if that's all the series ever was (what's wrong with a setting distinct from pretty much *every* superhero book out there?)- but I realize I'm in the vast minority here, so I welcome the more standard superhero stuff, too. I guess WW's status beyond comics means she shouldn't be *too* pigeon-holed into an easily forgotten corner of the DCU.
Greek (and Norse) gods and goddesses have *always* had stories told about them that stresses their human-like foibles. That's a big part of their enduring hold on western storytelling, not just in comics. And a not inconsiderable role in the development of Western Civilization as a whole.
In comics, though, they do create a somewhat unique dilemma. A writer has to reconcile their existence not just with 'reality', but with a reality filled with colorful, superhumanly powered heroes and heroines and villains and villainesses that have to actually be the stars of their tales.
If Zeus and Athena were presented to the fullness of their potentials in the DCU setting, could WW or Superman or Batman believably be the heroes that they are or are meant for us to believe they are?
I guess that's why Zeus's bumbling around is what we see... and Hades' and Ares' one-note villain characterizations are the rule. Neither of them were uncomplex villains, any more than war or death are purely evil in reality. Interesting that Athena doesn't seem to be 'lessened' in her DCU appearances. Is that only because they've been relatively few? I always wonder about Apollo's perpetual absence...
Anyway- #41's out and it features a break from mythological setting, though a figure from myth is featured in a prominent opening subplot, along with some new(?) characters with *very* myth-based origins continuing to cause trouble.
I loved this issue for a number of reasons. First of all, there's Achilles moving to... well, somewhere in America. For some reason, I thought it was Washington DC, but that's not actually stated. I liked the bit with Patrick Cleese... but if Achilles were the leading character, I'd find the Diana-as-matchmaker bit and the reincarnated Patroclus thing as way too much too fast too easily. *However*, as this isn't someone who's going to get his own miniseries or back-up anytime soon, I'm OK with moving along his story at a heightened pace.
What I really liked was Mysia and Chris Batista's rendition of Achilles astride the two-trunked, three-eyed flying elephant vaulting into the nightsky above Thalarion. Beautiful.
Oh, yeah- this is a Wonder Woman comic. I liked that part of the issue, too. WW and PG go through a fairly routine 'mind-influenced-super-heroes-fight-each-other-instead-of-the-bad-guys' plot, but with some enjoyable twists. First of all, even though one of them's under the influence, so to speak, she still thinks and acts like herself.
There's a battle of words at the heart of shaking off the influence, rather than just a punch in the gut. Or in conjuction with a punch or two, to be more accurate. These are two fighters. But that's not all they are.
I liked that characterization was revealed while fighting, something that doesn't happen nearly as much as it should in superhero comics. I liked the 'did she just punch me to Canada' line. I liked the way elements dating back to WW's earliest history were intertwined with recent events (the bondage bit, Reformation Island, the white gorilla to the rescue, the too-short glimpse of Steve and Etta).
What didn't I like? The 'she's not Amazon' line. Hippolyta would think this, or Artemis. But Diana? The only thing worse would be if Donna had thought it. Diana and PG sitting on clouds at issue's end? Floating among- great. But how do you sit on a cloud? Maybe Diana was using the L________ tech that the invisible plane's made from...
How long till the little sons of Ares raise a ruckus on Reformation Island? Was that the plan all along?
I hope Diana's use of actual spanking comes back to her-- it was well-justified and good for a chuckle, but the psychology of the act shouldn't be ignored.
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It was a nice short story wasn't it ML? And while the mythology was present, it was more just to tie the issue to the current series.
Gail really showed Diana's and Kara's personalities. She gave us a great peek inside each woman's mind, how they approach a fight, how they look at life, and at each other. I gotta disagree with ya ML - Diana's comment about not being an Amazon seemed spot on. She respects Kara as an opponent, but her training as an Amazon is a way of life, she's more than her powers.
And seeing PG try and handle crowd control was more entertaining than WW's handling of the villains of the story.
Achilles' story is one of those slow burns. Just hope it isn't too slow.
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It's official. Gail Simone is leaving Wonder Woman. JM Straczynski will be the new writer. I respect them both. The high point of Gail's run for me was the sword and sorcery arc. Best of luck to her. I've enjoyed Stracynski's Brave and Bold stories and look forward to his work on both Wonder Woman and Superman. And the beat goes on....
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While I didn't dislike Gail's run on WW, I have to say I'm not heartbroken about her leaving the title. I just didn't *love it* like I did so many of Gail's other comics. Like Jerry, the high point for me was the sword & sorcery arc but many other arcs landed flat.
I do look forward to Gail's return to BOP and also to JMS's arrival on Wonder Woman. I'm still waiting for that Wonder Woman run that really just blows me away--thus far it has yet to exist in my lifetime.
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quote:Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: I'm still waiting for that Wonder Woman run that really just blows me away--thus far it has yet to exist in my lifetime.
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