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quote:Originally posted by Spellbinder: Heck, in a year it will turn out that was a missing Skrull!
Click Here For A Spoiler Which would lead to the realization that a Skrull impersonating Johnny unknowingly married a Skrull impersonating Alicia Masters!
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quote:Originally posted by rickshaw1: They hadn't really had a "death" before, had they?
Not one that lasted. A couple of years ago, either Ben or Reed "died" and I seem to recall the FF going to Heaven to bring him back or something like that.
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Reed "died" when Defalco was writing it (I think it was Defalco). Lasted for a little while. Yeah, Ben died and they went to heaven and got him back from Kirby.
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So, it was Johnny's last wish that Spider-Man should take his place on the team? Seriously? Spider-Man? As little sense as this makes to me, I'm just grateful that it wasn't Wolverine.
I'm going to give this a try, but I can honestly see myself dropping FF after a few issues.
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I've really enjoyed the THREE storyline & I actually went out & bought the 1st issue of FF.
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Thought it was a solid opening issue to new arc (er, series)! What I'm looking forward to the most is how Franklin and Val will play into the series since Hickman has done the impossible and made the FF kids genuine assets to the franchise by being both interesting and likable.
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Yeah, he does well with them. I really like the characters he's surrounded Franklin and Val with, too. I only wish there were an Inhuman or two in the mix.
Speaking of which, I'm really looking forward the Four Cities continuation. Didn't I see a solicit that had Click Here For A Spoiler Black Bolt back from the 'dead' on it? Can't wait for that.
Maybe around then we'll get to see Crystal's reaction to Johnny's death. That's the one beat that's gone unexplored.
Spider-man joining makes more sense than him continuing with the Avengers, though I enjoy him there. The most recent addition Click Here For A Spoiler Dr. Doom has me scratching my head. Click Here For A Spoiler What is about von Doom that has young blondes like Val and Layla Miller trusting him, seemingly against all reason?
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#2-3 of this title prove that Hickman and Epting are nothing short of excellent. I'm loving just about every facet of this comic.
I really enjoyed the idea of a "Symposium on how to finally destroy Reed Richards" (or something like that) with the High Evolutionary, the Thinker, El Diablo and the Wizard invited by Dr. Doom to the FF's HQ. A totally quirky, cool idea!
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With #4 I'm again blown away by the sheer amount of plot density here, which I just love. Compiled on that is Hickman's ability to really make each character stand out with real characterization.
Not only has Hickman done the impossible (as I stated above) and make Franklin & Val an enjoyable part of the FF series, but Val is actually emerging as the best character in the book! Hickman also has the rare talent to write both Reed and Sue incredibly well. IMO, he's become the quintessential author of Reed Richards.
Still loving the 'Symposium' of villains on how to destroy Reed (which includes Reed, Val and Nathanial Richards). The idea was presented in #3 but in #4 we get to actually see the meeting and its just awesome. The best lines are by Diablo of all people.
I love the complexity and the scope of the whole thing. It's how the Fantastic Four should be--grandiose on a level that borders on the overwhelming (to the characters and readers).
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So it looks like the Torch is returning *already* in November, probably in a renumbered Fantastic Four #600. REALLY, Marvel?
Look, I know Johnny's death was off-panel and unconfirmed, but if they're going to use the event to rename, repurpose and relaunch the book, then shouldn't the effects last somewhat longer than ten friggin' months?
I dunno. That just may be my jumping OFF point at least for buying the FF monthly. I've a feeling Hickman's stuff reads better in trade form anyway.....
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My prediction: a new Fantastic Four starring in a series continuing the numbering of the old series (re: get a #600 issue), while the FF continues as is. This way Marvel gets the best of both worlds. They used the same trick with Hulk two or three years ago.
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^I was right, natch (or close enough as content of each is still unclear). I work in corporate America after all--I know how these execs want their cake and want to eat it too...and your cake as well.
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I was really disappointed in the issues depicting Black Bolt's return. The art was horrible, IMO. And I'm really ticked about the short shrift Crystal is getting, once again. Her reaction to Johnny's death is one I've been waiting to read since the death happened. I guess the fact that we *didn't* see her reacting is a point in his resurrection's favor, in a weird way. It's sort of like if I don't see Crys crying over Johnny, then it didn't *really* happen.
Would she have taken Ronan's hand if she'd known what her friends in the FF were going through?
I don't think so. I do like the way that gesture was presented, though. As a reader, am I meant to now believe their marriage has become a 'true' one? Or is she still the political pawn, making the appropriate gestures to serve her ever-demanding royal family? I like the ambiguity.
I also liked how Lockjaw found Black Bolt. But then, I always like the big doggie.
The multiple wives for Blackagon Botlagar creep me out a bit. But I'm meant to be, I think. Once again, the 'In', as in not a part of the succeeding word, in 'Inhuman' becomes vividly apparent. Hopefully, the 'human' that *is* and has always been there will follow shortly thereafter.
I'm wishing that the Inhuman royal family and the Richards (and extended clan) will be fast friends when this war between cities concludes. An Inhuman child or two should move into the Future Foundation... A Royal family member should join some Earth team or other, depending on where Attilan next roosts.
I do appreciate that Hickman is making The Inhumans such a big part of the burgeoning FF story. Clearly, he appreciates their history. Keeping the entire regular cast out of two successive issues was a big risk. That I appreciate, as well. Unfortunatley, I don't think it was a risk that paid off.
I wonder if Black Panther will be showing up soon?
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