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Actually, 'Boot...I wasn't defending or supporting the deal with the devil...just agreeing with Quesada's stated reasoning behind not wanting Pete and MJ to divorce.
My parents didn't divorce, but I know that many young children whose parents divorce are emotionally wrecked by it. Sometimes they see one or both parents as "bad guys" for breaking apart their family. That could be how they would have seen it had Pete and MJ divorced. I believe strongly that no superhero is currently in (or anywhere near) Spidey's league in popularity among children thanks to the movies. I use my own sons and their friends as evidence. So divorce could really shatter their perception of him in a way it wouldn't other less popular characters.
Is a deal with the devil a better solution in that prism. No, not really. But I've yet to see any mainstream press coverage on OMD at all, let alone anything approaching what we saw with Captain America dying and other such coverage. If there had been a divorce, I think it's more likely it would have gotten a lot of exposure and possibly reached kids.
Of course...if the Christian right-wingers, like those who who demonize Harry Potter, get a hold of this and run with it--it could be a whole 'nother ball of wax!
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From: The Underbelly of Society | Registered: Jul 2003
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Well, if anything, they got a mystical abortion as part of the deal. They don't have any live kids to emotionally wreck.
And remember that (1) Death of Cap hit on a Slow News Day and (2) Marvel sent out press releases and had a deal with a couple of papers to do pieces on it. Neither happened here, for obvious reasons.
And I'm half-hoping that something like Fox News gets a hold of it...
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Where was Mephisto when I was in college? My rap-sheet would be a lot less interesting.
From: If you don't want my peaches, honey... | Registered: Sep 2003
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quote:Originally posted by Quislet, Esq.: Aside from the deal with the devil, you have MJ sacrificing her happiness for the happiness of those she loves. Isn't that supposed to be a moral good?
From that perspective though - doesn't that make Peter look even worse? Saying "yes" to a deal with the devil to make his life better and her life worse?
Who actually makes the deal? I thought it was MJ.
Still the deal is so that Aunt May (whom both MJ and Peter love) is brought back to life. So you could say Peter is sacrificing his happiness with MJ for Aunt May.
Just playing Devil's Advocate here.
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quote:A pal of mine shoots me this link containing the new status quo for the Spider-Man books.
My take? They've reset things to the point where they're now telling stories about a single 30something nerd that lives with his mother figure, has dated two girls, and is perpetually broke.
This is Marvel's attempt to "relate" to their average fan, isn't it?
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From: Up a Gumtree | Registered: Jul 2003
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Ugh. You just reminded me Loeb is in the Ultiverse. I pray he’ll stay away from Ultimate Spidey (or realistically, Bendis’ status at Marvel will let keep Ultimate Spidey sacrosanct). Ultimate Spidey is just about the last aspect of the Ultiverse I’m bothering to pick up anymore…
From: If you don't want my peaches, honey... | Registered: Sep 2003
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I really feel with those die-hard Spidie fans who right now must feel robbed like we Legion fans did back in 94 when Zero Hour flushed Legion Lore down the toilet.
I for my part was a regular ASM reader since JMS came on board, and I liked most of his run. One More Day was a terrible exception to that - and I consider the final solution to be absolute nonsense.
To begin with, I never could follow the way of thinking that Peters and MJs marriage was a problem. That's simply rubbish. I thought that it was a nice twist to see Peter to gain that much power out of MJs love.
So there was no dilemma to begin with. Still, they had to retcon it. Perfect junk. The story did not work as well. An adult man with a wonderful marriage would never sacrifice all that for a dying aunt - at least he should not unless he is in some major psychological trauma...
Sacrificing his wife for his "mother figure" probably would Freudian psychiatrists happy, but storywise, it just does not work.
Now I don't know when in Marvel time this Harry Osborn revival is supposed to have happened, and how this hole gibberish is supposed to fit into New Avengers continuity, but I am happy that one decision has been made for me by such a weak storytelling and editing:
No way am I going to keep on reading Spiderman after the One More Day dedacle.
I quit. Which leaves me with just two Marvel books on my monthly pick (X-Factor and New Avengers).
Glad to have some free money now to spend on some more intelligent stuff...
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