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I dunno. Having finally gotten to issue #83 and that haunting two-page spread, it's hard not to analyze the wound and try to figure out it's survivability. To me, it looks like the bullet entered the eyeball at a severe left angle and may have missed the brain on its way to taking the right ear out. I'm assuming that people think the bullet took out the eye on a more direct angle because it's completely missing. In my mind it took it out from an angle. It looks like there's this horrible hole right behind where his eye was, but I'm seeing that as more like what's left behind with the eyeball taken out. It could have missed the brain and the surrounding infrastructure.
I'm no anatomy expert, so I'm probably missing something you guys are not. Yes, the injury looks horrific as depicted, but the angle of the wound makes it appear that it could possibly be nonfatal. I dunno. I wish there was a diagram of the human skull somewhere that would show exactly where everything is in relationship to the wound as depicted.
I can't imagine that if the character lives through this that Kirkman doesn't have the science of it all backing him up. Possibly Charlie Adlard's to blame for his drawing maybe going further than the script dictated?
Of course, this is all assuming the character ultimately lives....
83 had some other disturbing scenes to go along with that one, didn't it? I really wasn't expecting those other two particular characters to die after having the principle shocker spoiled for me! (The other two weren't shocking given the cover and the events of last issue.) The way they died and how Rick acted in the moment were pretty shocking, though Kirkman kinda set it up at the end of last issue and the beginning of this one.
It was interesting to see the cast finally trying that trick that Rick and Glenn used waaaaaay back (and on the TV show) for the first time since. The results were much less successful, though. I wonder if the urination set the dead off or if it was ultimately the fact that our cast were just talking too much?
I'll get to 84 before long. Obviously, I know the character in jeopardy is still among the living for the moment, causing all this controversy. I'm curious to see who else lives and dies and how the survivors managed to surprisingly turn this invasion around as the spoilers hint.
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Lash In museums on the front line I have seen much worse. I was appalled and fascinated at the same time. I just could not see how these poor buggers had survived. Huge gaping holes in their faces, with eyes, noses, and jaws missing. Yet they did. They were treated, given care and help, even rudimentary plastic surgery and sent home to their loved ones.
It just makes me think that as long as that bullet missed the brain and from what I saw it might have, the fact it has taken the back of the head off as well may not make it beyond the realms of possibility that he can survive, at least for a while.
After all this is a comic where Zombies walk the earth eating people, if the reader can suspend disbelief for that why not for this?
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My wife reads TWD with me. She has a degree in biology. In her opinion the wound as depicted is survivable and would not have hit the brain nor breached the area where the brain is protected. I wish I had a link to the image or could post it here (but that would be extremely spoilery for the TPB people whom I'm trying to consider), but when I look at it, it seems more and more that the bullet penetrated about an inch into the side of his face at an outward angle. The missing eye makes it look as if it went directly through from the front, but it did not. The empty eye socket enhances the illusion that the bullet exited through the back of his head, but it did not! The hole in his hat is off to the side, to the left of where his ear had been, NOT in the back of his head!
Yes, Carl could still possibly die of blood loss, shock, infection or other complications, but he did NOT take a bullet in the brain! It's an ugly, shocking and horrifically disfiguring shot but not necessarily a fatal one, certainly not an instantly fatal one. He did have immediate access to medical care, albeit not anything like a top-notch trauma unit. If he didn't lose too much blood, if the shock doesn't kill him and if any infection is treated, he could conceivably live as far as I can tell.
Again, I think the missing eye is throwing people off and keeping them from looking at the image properly. So look again, and maybe you'll see what I saw.
So if he lives past the first page of issue 85 and even well beyond, I'm still aboard as a massive fan of this series. If he doesn't, Iam, as a friend of mine recently said, "so long and thanks for all the fish." And forgive me if I choose to continue to follow the book anyway.
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Well I'm gonna bow out of this debate; I have my opinion on the matter and respect differing ones, but based on my years dealing with ocular problems I'm not likely to change my opinion on the matter.
I will not let it hamper my enjoyment of the series though... (I haven't even READ 84 yet for gosh sakes).
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