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Exnihil
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Thanks for the LMB/LMBP discussion. That's really a very satisfying explanation for the meaning of the name.


On the topic of social strata... it's just fascinating to me to try to imagine, and very much falls into the "world-building" that you guys have been engaged in for over a decade.

I think I tend to agree with IB on the division lines between class based on position versus those of birth.

It would seem that a "lurker" could always improve his or her standing by becoming more engaged, while the division between "Primaries" - for lack of a better term - and "Alts" is something more inherent, like no matter what they do, an Alt would always be an Alt. A Gen Char simply seems like it would be a lower substrata within the "Alt" community.

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Something else: the act of "posting" would be akin to logging into the monitor board and being on duty. So essentially, posting is the time spent being a hero, saving lives and going on adventures
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The class divisions are an interesting topic, no doubt. What's unsaid and a big question is how in the world can someone tell if you're an Alt? Is it a physical characteristic? Is it like Marvel's mutants where some are obvious and some can hide it easily?
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I'm having a hard time understanding this system. How could all the characters know they are fictional characters without it being unrealistic?

Logically, if we went by that system than that means all cameo characters and a majority of supporting characters would be Alt-IDs or Gen-Chars, which means they would not be a minority.

I joined after making alternate identities became against the rules of this forum so therefore I cannot have Alt-IDs.

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I never put any real thought into it...
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...it just always seemed to be...
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...pretty self explanatory.

As far as I am concerned...it's what it is, and the alts were just other characters controlled by a main poster. I try to give mine different personalities, and their own 'voice'.

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What if it was "Legion of the Monitor Board" and said Board was the most comprehensive, state-of-the-art computer of its kind, so much so that a superhero team would name itself in relation to it? Maybe, their benefactor, Engine Joe Brande patented the device and named them after it to get his creation's brand recognition out there?

I know it sounds a little too much like how corporate sponsorship is in our day and age, but it would make sense. And over time, the LMB outgrew their initial impression of being corporate shills after they proved their worth but kept the name anyway, though generally only using the abbreviation (like KFC).

Just a thought, anyway.

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Getting more towards your actual question, the "Message Board" could mean a variety of things. I once discussed this with some posters here (Lardy, do you remember this conversation? Eryk may have been involved).
I believe you refer to this topic I started. (It didn't really go anywhere.)

The question of "what does the LMB stand for?" has bothered me for many years as it regards our shared universe. My previous post is my latest, spontaneous thought on the matter.

My bottom line scenario is this: if the "LMB" was an actual comic book or movie or whatever, its abbreviation would have to make sense to its audience. The concept, as it is now, just wouldn't. To me, that's pretty much the only imperfection in a fictional universe to which I take great pride in being one of its chroniclers. The "Gen-char", "lurker" and "Alt-ID" stuff is just in-jokes that could be explained away or just discarded, but the abbreviation is the core group's identity and just can't be explained as it exists now within its own continuity!

I'll shut up now. [Big Grin]

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FYI, in my mind only Lash Lad realizes he's a fictional character, though even that has only ever been very subtly hinted at.

No other characters even consider it. So "Alt ID" as we think of it cannot mean the same thing to the characters.

I'm more concerned about the group's social struggles instead of what actually makes them different.

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Yeah, I wasn't suggesting that those folks were aware of a fictional nature, just that the "meta" titles applied to them (Alt, Gen Char, lurker, etc.) would have an entirely different in-story meaning that what we (meaning the "real life" we) would traditionally use those terms to mean.

Like, for instance, the very word, "Alt", in a fictional world would seem, to me, to have a sense of "otherness" about it. As if, by its application, the implication is that they are an "alternate" type of person from a "non-alt". Not that I'm saying that the word would necessarily be a slur, mind you, but perhaps something that it's not really polite to use in mixed company.

(Dude... not cool... take it easy with the "A" word... Timber Wolf and Angdar are right above you... [Smile] )

I don't know... I might be getting into some dangerous waters here.

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Well, it might turn out to be more helpful than harmful for my story-telling purposes. I have been toying quite a bit with how the average non-LMBer views LW's government and super-villain attacks. If this is the way residents of LW see themselves and others, it could even explain a lot about the structure of Legion World and why Question Lad is kind of bitter about it.

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I agree with Emily; if you'll check her Question Lad thread, she raises some interesting questions.

With the Alts and lurkers, I agree their social struggles are more important. But I think it would help if we figured out how they became Alts. Perhaps Alts can be born with... something... like they're clones, or alternate universe versions of Earth-1 counterparts that were displaced in some past crisis?

That would explain the slight stigma - they're not "really" from here. There would be no way to tell for sure whether someone is an alt, though...

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Originally posted by Lard Lad:
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Getting more towards your actual question, the "Message Board" could mean a variety of things. I once discussed this with some posters here (Lardy, do you remember this conversation? Eryk may have been involved).
I believe you refer to this topic I started. (It didn't really go anywhere.)

The question of "what does the LMB stand for?" has bothered me for many years as it regards our shared universe. My previous post is my latest, spontaneous thought on the matter.

My bottom line scenario is this: if the "LMB" was an actual comic book or movie or whatever, its abbreviation would have to make sense to its audience. The concept, as it is now, just wouldn't. To me, that's pretty much the only imperfection in a fictional universe to which I take great pride in being one of its chroniclers.

I only remember one time in my years that the full name "Legion of Message Board Posters" was used in-story, which was my post where Kid Marvel and Rockhopper Lad were sworn in as Leader and Deputy Leader, respectively. I'm sure there have been others, but usually it's just "LMB" or "LMBP", the latter of which seems to be used less than it once was.

Legion of Mighty Beings, perhaps? [Wink]

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This is actually a question for Lardy (but if Cobie sees it first and knows, feel free).

I haven't kept up on the whole "Lord of the Oval' story, so if this is answered there, apologies in advance, but is Kalla Hrykos blood related to your earlier character, Damyen Hrykos and, if so, in what way?

(I'm working on something you're going to dig - not a story, but something pretty cool).

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