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Ok that explains things. When I got back into comics I told myself I wanted to only buy Legion and Legion related titles. I passed on the whole crisis countdown series thing because I had just gotten back into things and thought any Legion appearance would be minimal at best. That and I haven't really put the big picture together with what has happend with Legion since about 1980. You know, in regards to different titles, the first crises (how many crisis series have there been anyway?) reboots, etc. People have tried to explain it to me but having started so late in the game its hard to understand all the rules.
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From: Bgztl | Registered: Feb 2008
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Superboy and Mon-el can fly fast enough to break the time barrier. My understanding is that it is assumed that you need to travel faster than the speed of light to accomplish this.
Were Ultra Boy or Wildfire ever shown to be capable of breaking the time barrier based on their own flight capability?
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From: Bgztl | Registered: Feb 2008
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It's specifically stated in the Jeckie/Val wedding issue that Ultra Boy cannot break the time barrier by himself. It has something to do with his lack of ability to be invulnerable at the time he's using his super-speed.
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quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: It's specifically stated in the Jeckie/Val wedding issue that Ultra Boy cannot break the time barrier by himself. It has something to do with his lack of ability to be invulnerable at the time he's using his super-speed.
I didn't think of that, it makes perfect sense that he would need to be invulnerable at the same time. Thanks so much for the reply. Do you think he could fly fast enough though if he was invulnerable? Also in the DC universe do they equate teh ability to break the time barrier with flying faster than the speed of light?
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From: Bgztl | Registered: Feb 2008
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Well, with The Flash (Barry Allen) it was going faster than the speed of light and adjusting your vibrations.
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quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: It's specifically stated in the Jeckie/Val wedding issue that Ultra Boy cannot break the time barrier by himself. It has something to do with his lack of ability to be invulnerable at the time he's using his super-speed.
I didn't think of that, it makes perfect sense that he would need to be invulnerable at the same time. Thanks so much for the reply. Do you think he could fly fast enough though if he was invulnerable? Also in the DC universe do they equate teh ability to break the time barrier with flying faster than the speed of light?
Before 1985, it was largely a matter of being able to travel fast enough; many people seemed to do it (even Dawnstar sort-of did in DC Comics Presents 17, but this seems to have been an isolated instance).
Since 1985, it isn't just speed; Pocket-Universe Superboy could but Superman couldn't, and even the Flashes had more problems in time travelling, even with their Cosmic Treadmill.
Basically, in the mid-80s DC realized time travel was too easy, and shouldn't be as taken for granted as it had become.
It would seem odd for Jo to have that power on his own, at least in a controllable fashion. But we did see Jo time-travel twice in an involuntary (or partially voluntary) fashion: During the Reflecto saga (v.2 277-283) and in his Egyptian exile (v.4, spread out between 10 and 20).
In the first case, he survived an energy attack and was thought dead but was actually immaterial, invisible and undetectable; in a panic he thought Superboy could help and found he could propel himself back in time to him, something he could not do (or never tried) as a solid person.
In the second case, the weapon that shot him was a temporal weapon that sent him back in time 5,000 years, but deposited him on Khundia, far, far from the place he was shot (Winath). So there Jo was able to withstand time travel across space, a presumably harsher condition than time travelling without leaving the same environment (a consideration most CB writers ignore anyway).
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Ok, do the Legion comics take place in the Milky Way galaxy as a whole or do the characters travel from one galaxy to the other in their ships or with Superboy flying through space? Just from reading the comics this is not clear to me.
What is the limit in size to the DC universe (in regards to where the storylines take place. I have a map from DC games which seems to indicate that the Khundish empire, The Dominion, The Dark Circle, and UP Space are all part of the Milky Way Galaxy. Does anyone know if this is true. The map is rather poor and provides no scale in miles or light years so it is tough to get much out of it. The only thing I really get is the location of planets in comparison to one another, but again no scale.
Anyone have a good DC map? Anyone know if the above empires are all in the Milky Way?
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I think I've seen the map you're thinking of. I don't know if there's a better one.
The Legion is generally limited to our galaxy. Green Lanterns, whereas, range across the universe (though the writers' conception of the spatial universe makes no sense).
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I think it was said Mon-EL was stronger because he had all his weaknesses gone. He had his Serum to protect him from lead and he wasn't vunerable to Kryptonite. That's why he was "stronger".
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quote:Originally posted by Triplicate Kid: I think I've seen the map you're thinking of. I don't know if there's a better one.
The Legion is generally limited to our galaxy. Green Lanterns, whereas, range across the universe (though the writers' conception of the spatial universe makes no sense).
Yea, I think it's time to make my own on the computer. I'll end up making a lot of my own calls as to what is where, distance between worlds, that sort of thing.
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For what it's worth, I believe the Khunds were originally described as being "from a distant galaxy", but more recent depictions have tended to move them much closer to Earth.
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Do we have a list of EVERY Legion series and mini-series somewhere? I know we have the recent compliled list offered by one of the fans, but I'm talking about a title list we could take to the store and use as a shopping guide. I'm sure there are tons of titles and spin offs people like myself are unware of and therefore don't go to that section of the comic archive files. If no such list is available I think we should have a sticky thread for such a list. This type of list would be invaluable for those who are "getting into the hobby" either for the first time or from a leave of absence. This type of list should include:
The title The month and years that it ran The issue numbers Also what "Legion" it is tied to....original, reboot, etc.
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There's the Legion Checklist over in the Encyclopedia Galactica section of this site. Currently, it's only updated to 1976, however.
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Sounds like it's really outdated, I'd expect most of the mini-series came in the 1990's as well as the 80's and 90's seeing the majority of the title changes. What can we do to update it?
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