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Added misspelling of Vyrga (again). Anything else I need to add?
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Should I add Paul's statement on Facebook that Mon-El and Shadow Lass are divorced?

This would seem to have big implications for continuity while being in no comic at all (except for the out-of-continuity board game).

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The problem in this case is that Facebook is also the only place he says that the board game is out of continuity. If I ignore his statement on Facebook about the divorce, I'll also have to ignore that, which would make things worse--not only does the board game mention the divorce, it mentions a bunch of other things that are problems.
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In Adventure #5, is a story with Superboy-Prime. His girlfriend is apparently back to life and there is a ring on her hand which is obviously supposed to be a white lantern, black lantern, or something. Has this ever been followed up on?
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quote:
Originally posted by Ken Arromdee:
In Adventure #5, is a story with Superboy-Prime. His girlfriend is apparently back to life and there is a ring on her hand which is obviously supposed to be a white lantern, black lantern, or something. Has this ever been followed up on?

SSSSSH!!!!!!

I think we were all hoping that DC had forgotten about S-Prime, at least for a good long while.

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See, there is the problem with the concept of the existence of Superboy-Prime.

Supposedly, Earth-Prime is as similar to the world in which you and I live as it is possible to get.

Recently, we have had the tsunami in Japan, and the resulting nuclear mess.

In the past couple of years, we have had the Gulf oil spill, the iceland volcano, floods in the eastern U.S., Russia, and Pakistan.

These are disasters custom-made for a "Superboy", and presumably they are happening on Earth-Prime as well. But if Superboy-Prime does get involved in these disasters, Earth-Prime quickly diverges from "our" reality.

Too, this Superboy-Prime would probably want to end the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya by murdering the respective populations of those countries.

But in order for Earth-Prime to remain Earth-Prime, Superboy-Prime must essentially do nothing.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ken Arromdee:
The problem in this case is that Facebook is also the only place he says that the board game is out of continuity. If I ignore his statement on Facebook about the divorce, I'll also have to ignore that, which would make things worse--not only does the board game mention the divorce, it mentions a bunch of other things that are problems.

I wonder what Talokians have to cut off to get a divorce...?

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Actually, Superboy-Prime doesn't have powers on Earth-Prime. He only got powers in Crisis, when he left, and he lost them when he came back (Legion of Three Worlds). So you don't need to worry about why he doesn't stop disasters.

One thing that is a factor, however, is comic book time. All mainstream comic book stories happened in a relatively short time frame. They couldn't have happened when they were published because the characters would be far too old. And as time passes, the dates when they happened get pushed forwards.

And part of L3W and Adventure #5 depend on the comic books being published after Prime does the things depicted in them. Because of comic book time, the events are pushed forwards, so the comics were now published *before* the events. This ruins the stories or at least raises questions like, why didn't he read them first.

Oh, and I did add Paul's comment about the divorce to the list.

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This must be a very daunting task. It seems the more you slic n dice away the continuity the more and more you have to slice away for ANYTHING to still work

Even if you take out "Conspiracy" you still leave in Mon-el's alleged death, but it wasn't shown that he died until the 5 year gap. Nothing on panel supports a PRE gap death.

Yet the Time Trapper references the Pocket Universe in Action Comics and Conpiracy is visually referenced in LO3W but that isn't considered a continuity faux paux ?

Methinks that maybe we still aren't sure what is and what isn't a "mistake"

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quote:
Originally posted by TimeTrapR:
Nothing on panel supports a PRE gap death.

The material on-panel supports his heart stopping with everyone reacting to it as though he is dead. We may not have seen a death certificate, but this pretty soundly establishes that he is as dead as anyone can be in comics.

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Yet the Time Trapper references the Pocket Universe in Action Comics and Conpiracy is visually referenced in LO3W but that isn't considered a continuity faux paux ?

Paul said that not all of Legion of Three Worlds is canon. He seems to be treating some of it as if it is anyway, but there have been things such as the appearance of the original Emerald Empress and Validus which he is not.

It's also plausible that the Time Trapper can reference retconned-away events.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ken Arromdee:
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Originally posted by TimeTrapR:
Nothing on panel supports a PRE gap death.

The material on-panel supports his heart stopping with everyone reacting to it as though he is dead. We may not have seen a death certificate, but this pretty soundly establishes that he is as dead as anyone can be in comics.
Point being that is subjective. Without any 5 Year Gap knowledge we are kept with dangling plot line. A cliff hanger. Drama over a flatline. But not solid death. It would seem inaccurate to call it dead, Jim. Especially Since Next we see Mon-El is alive. Not criticism at all, just for conversations sake it wouldn't be accurate to utilize 5 Year Gap revelations to disavow current continuity.
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Yet the Time Trapper references the Pocket Universe in Action Comics and Conpiracy is visually referenced in LO3W but that isn't considered a continuity faux paux ?

Paul said that not all of Legion of Three Worlds is canon. He seems to be treating some of it as if it is anyway, but there have been things such as the appearance of the original Emerald Empress and Validus which he is not.

It's also plausible that the Time Trapper can reference retconned-away events. [/
Yet again all readers have to go buy is printed word. And in the case of the Pocket Universe and Time Trapper's machinations to remove Superboy from history there is published reference substantiating it's existence. A footnote from interviews and artist intent doesn't add relevance one way or the other. Especially since Paul was talking about LO3W and not Action Comics 864.
Seems you may be on a quest to dismiss Pocket Universe from existence and in this huge compilation of info you are ignoring or dismissing modern reference to it.

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