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Posted by Future on :
 
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As a self-proclaimed creative, Micro Heroes have always intrigued me. You know, those little pixel-drawn renditions of super-heroes fans make themselves and post around the Internet based on various templates? While I liked them, the urge to dive in and make my own never hit me. Something about the proportions never appealed to me. Then I found template bodies based on Bruce Timm's designs from the DC Animated Universe. I love that style an unhealthy amount.

Consider me converted! I've been working on these on and off for a few years and decided to start posting them to motivate myself to finish more. I'd like to one day have made a representation of every Legion character in every costume ever depicted. Below are my first offerings. I've got dozens more done but I'm waiting until I either have an entire team finished or every variation of a character finished before I post more sets.

Disclaimers: I don't own the Legion. I recognize that not every costume variation or Elseworlds is included yet. While I designed the costumes myself, most of the faces/heads were kitbashed together using other people's work.

LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES
Andromeda * Blok * Bouncing Boy * Brainiac 5 * Chameleon Boy * Chameleon Girl * Chemical King * Colossal Boy * Cosmic Boy
Dawnstar * Dream Girl * Earth Man * Element Lad * Ferro Lad * Gates * Gear * Inferno * Invisible Kid * Invisible Kid II
Karate Kid * Kid Quantum * Kid Quantum II * Kinetix * Lightning Lad * Lightning Lass * Magnetic Kid * Magno * Matter-Eater Lad * Mon-El
Monstress * Nemesis Kid * Night Girl * Phantom Girl * Polar Boy * Princess Projectra * Quislet * Saturn Girl * Sensor * Shadow Lass
Shikari * Shrinking Violet * Star Boy * Sun Boy * Superboy (Kal-El) * Superboy (Kon-El) * Supergirl * Tellus * Thunder * Timber Wolf
Triplicate Girl * Tyroc * Ultra Boy * White Witch * Wildfire * XS


FATAL FIVE
Mentalla


LEGION ACADEMY
Bouncing Boy * Comet Queen * Crystal Kid * Infectious Lass * Karate Kid II * Lamprey * Laurel Kent * Magnetic Kid * Mandalla
Mentalla * Night Girl * Nightwind * Polar Boy * Power Boy * Shadow Kid * Silver Sword * Skreets * Tellus * Triplicate Girl
Urk * Visi-Lad * Westerner


LEGION OF SUBSTITUTE HEROES
Antennae Lad * Chlorophyll Kid * Color Kid * Comet Queen * Double Header * Dream Girl * Fire Lad * Infectious Lass * Karate Kid II
Night Girl * Polar Boy * Porcupine Pete * Rainbow Girl * Ron Karr * Sade * Star Boy * Stone Boy * Urk


LEGION OF SUPER VILLAINS
Nemesis Kid * Ron Karr


UNCANNY AMAZERS
Dreamer * Kid Quantum * Kid Quantum II * Monstress * Star Boy


WORKFORCE
Inferno * Karate Kid * Live Wire * Ultra Boy


Total Micros: 1281


[ December 08, 2012, 11:15 AM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 01: ROKK KRINN / Cosmic Boy / Polestar

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First Row: Adventure #247 / Silver Age / 70s / 80s / Magic Wars / Retroboot / TMK Legion / Polestar

Second Row: Postboot Training / Official / Emerald / 50s Time Trapper / 40s Time Trapper / Threeboot / Superman Animated / JLU Animated

Third Row: Animated Legion Origin / Legion Season 1 / Legion Season 2 / Smallville / Superboy's Legion / Superboy's Legion (arm) / Arthur Legion / Arthur Legion (wedding)


[ January 15, 2011, 08:22 AM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 02: IMRA ARDEEN / Saturn Girl

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Top Row: Adv #247 / Adv #267 / Silver Age / Action Back-Up / 70s / 80s / Magic Wars / Retroboot / Postboot Training / Postboot / Emerald / 50s Legion / 40s Legion

Bottom Row: Threeboot 1 / Threeboot 2 / Superman Animated / JLU Animated / Animated Legion (x2) / Smallville / Superboy's Legion / Arthur Legion (x2)


[ June 22, 2011, 01:06 PM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Love these!
 
Posted by Quislet, Esq on :
 
Very well done.
 
Posted by ActorLad on :
 
So awesome!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Thanks guys!

Now the question is: do I appease my OCD and keep posting them in order of joining or go ahead and post ones I've already completed?
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 03: GARTH RANZZ / Lightning Lad / Live Wire

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First Row: Adventure #247 / Silver Age / Silver Age (arm) / 70s / Retroboot / End of an Era / End of an Era (arm) / SW6 Live Wire

Second Row: Postboot Training / Live Wire / Workforce / Live Wire (arm) / Emerald / 40s Legion / Jan-in-Garth / For No Better Reason / Threeboot 1 / Threeboot 2

Third Row: Superman Animated / JLU Animated / Ani Legion Origin / Legion Season 1 / Legion Season 2 / Legion Season 2 (arm) / Smallville / Superboy's Legion / Arthur Legion


[ January 15, 2011, 08:33 AM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Future:
Thanks guys!

Now the question is: do I appease my OCD and keep posting them in order of joining or go ahead and post ones I've already completed?

In order! Feed the OCD! [Wink]
 
Posted by Ambush Bug on :
 
These are great!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 04: TINYA WAZZO / Phantom Girl / Phase / Apparition

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Top Row: Silver Age / 70s / 80s / Magic Wars / Retroboot / Arthur Legion / Postboot / Ghost / Postboot 2 / Postboot 3

Bottom Row: Threeboot 1 / Threeboot 2 / Threeboot 2 (gloved) / Superman Animated / JLU Animated / Ani Legion Origin / Legion Season 1 / Legion Season 2 / Superboy's Legion


[ January 15, 2011, 08:36 AM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester:
In order! Feed the OCD! [Wink]

OCD all the way, then!

That's it for now, as I still have a few Luornus to finish and it's late. Thanks for the feedback everybody!
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
<3 these!
It's amazing how many looks they've had over the years, isn't it?
Thanks for sharing these!
 
Posted by Power Boy on :
 
these are fantastic .... i sketch and make up new costumes for comic characters when i'm bored ... this is a great resource for my habit.


oh yes ... and in order!
 
Posted by lil'rhino on :
 
*swoon!*
 
Posted by Jerry on :
 
Nice work!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Thanks everyone for the continued compliments!

quote:
Originally posted by Candlelight:
<3 these!
It's amazing how many looks they've had over the years, isn't it?
Thanks for sharing these!

There's so much interesting trivia when you sit down and look over the history of these outfits. They all have so many repeating motifs, usually based off the Adventure and Cockrum eras. And it's interesting to see who ends up with more costume variations depending on the continuity.

quote:
Originally posted by Power Boy:
these are fantastic .... i sketch and make up new costumes for comic characters when i'm bored ... this is a great resource for my habit.


oh yes ... and in order!

I love costume doodling as well and these are a fun excuse for me to really scrutinize and enjoy the different details other artists have put into their own designs and interpretations.

A big perk to taking on an overwhelming project like this is to have a handy resource to see all the different costumes a Legionnaire has worn. I enjoy that stuff so much when other sites do it for the X-Men and other heroes.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 05.1: LUORNU DURGO / Triplicate Girl / Duo Damsel / Una / Duplicate Girl / Triad

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Top Row: Silver Age / Silver Age (glove) / 70s / 80s / Retroboot (cape) / Retroboot / UP Military / SW6 Triad / Postboot / Vi's Influence / Emerald / 50s Legion / 40s Legion / DnA (belted)

Bottom Row: Threeboot 1 / Threeboot 2 / Superman Animated / Ani Legion Origin / Legion Season 1 / Legion Season 2-1 / Legion Season 2-2 / Arthur Legion / Superboy's Legion


[ January 15, 2011, 08:40 AM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 05.2: LUORNU DURGO / Split Costumes

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First Row: Split 70s / Split 80s / Split SW6 / Split Postboot / Split Vi's Influence

Second Row: Split Emerald / Split 50's Legion / Split DnA (belted) / Split Superman Animated

Third Row:Split Ani Legion Origin / Split Legion Season 1 / Split Legion Season 2 / Split Arthur Legion


[ January 15, 2011, 08:44 AM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Wow!
Go Lu!
 
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
 
These are all kind of fun to see!

Don't forget Lu's yellow number she wore in the Pain Plague issue in the low numbers of SUPERBOY AND THE LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES!
 
Posted by Exnihil on :
 
Beautiful, beautiful stuff, Future!

Keep 'em coming!
 
Posted by Quislet, Esq on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Future:
quote:
Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester:
In order! Feed the OCD! [Wink]

OCD all the way, then!

That's it for now, as I still have a few Luornus to finish and it's late. Thanks for the feedback everybody!

I have CDO. It's just like OCD, but the letters are in the correct order, darn it!
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
I love that you've included the Emerald Legion nd Arthian Legions in the looks.

Have you thought about the 1,000,000 AD Annual that came out?
I ask because I just saw a Batman/Superman about them that came out recently.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Candlelight:
Have you thought about the 1,000,000 AD Annual that came out?
I ask because I just saw a Batman/Superman about them that came out recently.

I definitely have plans to get to them, as well as the other future Legions glimpsed in the Adult Legion stories and the Dead Earth annuals. Probably once I exhaust the core Legionnaires I plan to start doing series of teams (like 1,000,000) and also going back and doing civilian clothes and more minor costume variations (the kind which are more artist to artist and less creative intent).
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 06: GIM ALLON / Colossal Boy / Leviathan / Micro Lad

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First Row: Silver Age / Grell 70s / Cockrum 70s (second) / Cockrum 70s (first) / Giffen 80s / Magic Wars / Retroboot

Second Row: SW6 Legion / Postboot Training / Postboot (helmet) / Postboot / Threeboot 1 / Threeboot 2

Third Row: JLU Animated / Legion Season 1 / Legion Season 2 / Superboy's Legion / Arthur Legion


[ January 15, 2011, 08:54 AM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Yay! Now I'm totally wondering what Adventure Era "Deputy Gim" would look like with Magic Wars era side holster pocket thingie on him!
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Gim has had some beautiful costumes, hasn't he?
I particularly like #5 & 6 in the first row.
It was Giffen who designed #6 from that era, I think. I loved his costumes then and during the early TMK run.

I really like his first suit, too.
With a stand-up collar and a head piece in red or green, it would have been prefec.
I think.

Very fun!
 
Posted by SharkLad on :
 
Future, these are excellent! I'd love to see more...
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Candlelight:
I particularly like #5 & 6 in the first row.
It was Giffen who designed #6 from that era, I think. I loved his costumes then and during the early TMK run.

I believe Giffen designed both costumes, though I may be mistaken about #5. I do believe it was during the "New DC" phase around LSH #300 when Giffen was still on the title his first go.

I've always had a weird fondness for the Magic Wars costumes too. There's something about overly complicated outfits that I aesthetically love.

quote:
Originally posted by SharkLad:
Future, these are excellent! I'd love to see more...

More are coming, Sharky! I promise.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
That's funny, because I think of them as extremely simple in design!
All three have big, simple shapes and straight geometric lines - no capes, no underwear, no pads and little flesh or lots of colors.

The first is yellow, green and red.
Five is red and blue.
#6 is red and 2 shades of blue.
The white and black are kept to a minimum and serve as neutral accents.

I'm especially fond of costumes that look like cloth, too, not the painted on versions.

Interesting.

[ January 13, 2011, 10:17 AM: Message edited by: Candlelight ]
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Of Lu's costumes, which are vast, I like best the last of the reboot designs with the half skirt and white tights (#10 in the first row) and the much earlier purple and gold body suit that spits into the two colors (#4).

I really like her current/original one (last one in the second row), as well.
To update it a bit, I'd remove the cape and boots and give her gold full tights with the skirt in the front shortened and then, lengthen it in the back for a tapered look.
sigh

[ January 13, 2011, 10:18 AM: Message edited by: Candlelight ]
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
My three favorite looks for Tinya are her her Phase costume that she wore in .LEGION/.REBELS, her reboot outfit with the cape and 'white outside and black inside' body suit and finally, the Prime version of the pantsuit.

Those are the first row, #4, sort of, and #7 of the same row.
The last one is #1 in the second row.

I might try to update the looks using your basics, for some of my favorites, if you don't mind.

[ January 13, 2011, 10:19 AM: Message edited by: Candlelight ]
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
For Garth, third row, #s 1, 2 and 6.
I prefer Garth as kind of grungy, actually.

Imra, her currant look, #8 in the first row, and numbers 6 & 7 in the second row, although I really like her hair in the ponytail of #1 of the second row.
That was Primeboot, wasn't it?
I disliked that SG but liked the hair by Kitson.
I love the short hair she has now, though, too.
It just seems to fit her age and personality in the retroboot and she reminds me of Sam, whom I love, from SG1.

[ January 13, 2011, 10:20 AM: Message edited by: Candlelight ]
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
My favorite Rokk costumes are his current one, #6 in the first row, PrimeCos #1 of the second row and finally, #6 of row 2.
I really prefer Cos in purple and I like him to have the metal circles for weapons.

[ January 13, 2011, 10:21 AM: Message edited by: Candlelight ]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Candlelight:
I might try to update the looks using your basics, for some of my favorites, if you don't mind.

I don't mind! I'd just ask that they be posted to another thread so I can keep this a proper archive.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Thank-you, so much!
I think that you use some sort of program for the basic figures, but the detail is incredible!

I work at 800% for everything but the sketches I do to begin a project, and boy, even MY eyes see the detail.

Beautiful work.
 
Posted by Brody27 on :
 
My favorite Duo Damsel costumes are the Cockrum and Giffin ones. I love the split effect on both. Yellow is a good accent color with the purple and orange, and those boots are just great.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
neat!!! keep them coming...can't wait what you have on Chameleon Boy, Lyle Norg, and heh Supergirl!!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Candlelight:
I work at 800% for everything but the sketches I do to begin a project, and boy, even MY eyes see the detail.

Beautiful work.

Thanks, Candle. Yeah, I put a lot of needless pixel layers in sometimes because I just think it helps make the colors and shadows pop better.

And while I'm completely Adobe product and Photoshop/Illustrator trained, I use oldschool MSPaint from like Windows98 to make these. True story! It's just the easiest for me to work with given the punitive subject matter.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 07: REEP DAGGLE / Chameleon Boy / Chameleon

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Top Row: Silver Age / 70s / 80s / Magic Wars / Retroboot / Retroboot (sleeve) / TMK Legion / SW6 / Arthur Legion

Bottom Row: Postboot Training / Postboot / Emerald / 40s Legion / Threeboot 1 / Threeboot 2 / Superman Animated / JLU Animated / Legion Animated / Superboy's Legion


[ January 15, 2011, 08:56 AM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Wow! The most diverse set yet!
 
Posted by Exnihil on :
 
I think I know all the eras you're pulling from, but there's a couple I'm not 100% on.

The looks that precede the "Legion of Super-Heroes" cartoon... are they from the "Superman" animated series?

And the ones that are almost an echo of the original look, with a couple minor variations (placed near the end of each of your postings) are they from the "Superboy's Legion" elseworld?

Again... great job!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
You got it, Exnihil! The bottom rows or last ones are typically the animated versions followed by Elseworlds. The ones you mentioned are indeed from the Superman and JLU cartoons with the final one being from Superboy's Legion.

Sometimes I jump the order of some of the Elseworlds around, specifically the Arthur Legion costumes like for Cham by moving it to after the Preboot/TMK/Retroboot, just to appease my sense of balance. I didn't want to create a third row for Cham just yet but I also didn't want the image so bottom-heavy or to split groups.

I'm strange like that!

Should I start including some type of labeling system?
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Yeah, I'd appreciate labels, though I can figure most of them out.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
hey where's Cham's present costume..the one with short sleeve that is now regularly appearing in LSH? I admit...I found the short sleeve looks good on Cham. *gulp* [Smile]
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
I especially love Cham's outfits with the purple in them and the Camelot look.

His costumes tend to be bland, I think.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by superboymddjr:
hey where's Cham's present costume..the one with short sleeve that is now regularly appearing in LSH? I admit...I found the short sleeve looks good on Cham. *gulp* [Smile]

That's the fifth one over, top row! It technically appeared before his short-lived, long sleeve variant so that's where I inserted it chronologically.
 
Posted by MLLASH on :
 
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Posted by Future on :
 
All previous entries have been updated with labels! Apparently my chronology of Gim's costumes was backwards when it came to the 70s. Yikes. I also went back and included previously unseen Micros for the Smallville, 40s Postboot, and 50s Postboot Legions.

COMING SOON: Lyle Norg and the retcon of Kid Quantum!
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Yay!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 08: LYLE NORG / Invisible Kid

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Top Row: Silver Age / 70s / Postboot Training / Postboot / Emerald / 40s Legion

Bottom Row: Threeboot Civilian / Threeboot Unused / Threeboot 1 / Threeboot 2 White / Threeboot 2 Red / Superboy's Legion / Arthur Legion

 
Posted by razsolo on :
 
These are AMAZING, Future! I love all the little details, some of the costume variations are so minor I wouldn't have picked up on them at all...and there are costumes in here I had completely forgotten about or don't remember even seeing!

This has reminded me how much I liked the Magic Wars and Camelot redesigns for the most part too!

Can't wait to see more! [Smile]
 
Posted by Jerry on :
 
Thanks for the labels, raz!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 09: JAMES CULLEN / Kid Quantum / Soul of Antares

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Top Row: Rouvin / Rouvin captured by Eye / Kid Quantum / Soul of Antares / Superman Animated

Bottom Row: Postboot Planetary Champion / Postboot Training / Postboot / Transuit / Statue / Captain Atom (Countdown Arena)

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Kid Quantum is an example of the future of my Micros. I'd like to one day get to every civilian outfit, accessory, and costume iteration I've ever seen. That's far down the line though, but you may see it pop up for Legionnaires with a minimal amount of outfits.

Such as my next upcoming submission (and shoe-horning of continuities): XS!
 
Posted by Sketch Lad on :
 
Bravo! Encore!
 
Posted by BouncingBear on :
 
I'm anxious to see your Dream Girl and Element Lad micros.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Wow! I'm amazed that you got so many for as obscure a Legionnaire as KQ!
 
Posted by dedman on :
 
I'm shocked you get so much detail into such little images.
Really well done!
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
I love poring over these!
So much to see and learn, I can't get over how kewl these are!
[Hug]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 10: JENNI OGNATS / XS

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Top Row: Test Subject / AarokGov / Training / Legion Uniform / Transuit / L* #19 / Planet Hell / Clubbing / Rain Gear / Aged / Max Mercury's Closet (x2) / 20th Century (x3)

Bottom Row: VR Workout / Emerald / L* #58 / L* #61 / Chain Lightning / Swimsuit (x2) / Damned / Legion Worlds / DnA (x2) / Retroboot / Animated

 
Posted by Future on :
 
XS is another example of how thorough I'd one day like to be for every Legionnaire's outfits. The scary thing about Jenni? I'm still missing a few, mostly ones of when she was younger or an infant. Templates to work on when I revisit everyone, I suppose.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Wow!
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
That's what she looked like in the cartoon? Huh.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Love the animated and Eye looks!
VR Workout is kewl, too.

Wow, is right!
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
animated cartoon???? when?!!?? in Superman cartoon or Legion cartoon? never saw that one before. I admit I like that uniform! looks cool.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by superboymddjr:
animated cartoon???? when?!!?? in Superman cartoon or Legion cartoon? never saw that one before. I admit I like that uniform! looks cool.

Yep! She made a cameo in the series closer, Dark Victory parts 1 and 2, as one of several new Legionnaires in the background. Dawnstar and Chemical King also made quick cameos, but XS had a full body shot in the show. I actually really love the look. I didn't think I'd ever like Jenni getting a new costume but that first departure won me over.
 
Posted by Exnihil on :
 
I don't know why I like it, but for some reason I dig the kneepads on Jenni's DnA costumes. I can't think of a functional reason why she's need them, but I still think they look cool. [Smile]

Once again, Future, hats off to you for all the work that went into these. I can't imagine the number of hours you must have spent tracking down all the tiny details, but it's well appreciated. Great work!
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Put me down as also a big fan of both knee pads and the cartoon outfit!
 
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
 
I like the one you've labeled L*58. Make the sleeves 3/4 length and it'd be great. I also like the clubbing outfit, though not for Jenni. I could see it as uniform for a character though.

I don't remember the bald Jenni at all. From Legion Worlds? I need to reread those...
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mystery Lad:
I don't remember the bald Jenni at all. From Legion Worlds? I need to reread those...

It's actually a head mask/cover with goggles she wore for Legion Worlds #4. By the next time she appeared it was gone, presumably discarded or destroyed while battling Robotica off-panel. It's my fault that it blends in and looks like she's bald. It was a tannish-light brown color and I'm afraid I didn't differentiate the coloring enough from Jenni's skin hue.
 
Posted by razsolo on :
 
I have never seen the animated costume, but I LOVE it!! Thanks for showing! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ActorLad on :
 
Other then Jenni's normal uniform my favorites are her hoodie look and toon costume.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Future:
quote:
Originally posted by superboymddjr:
animated cartoon???? when?!!?? in Superman cartoon or Legion cartoon? never saw that one before. I admit I like that uniform! looks cool.

Yep! She made a cameo in the series closer, Dark Victory parts 1 and 2, as one of several new Legionnaires in the background. Dawnstar and Chemical King also made quick cameos, but XS had a full body shot in the show. I actually really love the look. I didn't think I'd ever like Jenni getting a new costume but that first departure won me over.
now I want to get DVD Season 2 so I can take a look at XS! groan....how I yearn for that dvd!!! sigh.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 11: QUERL DOX / Brainiac 5 / Brainy / B-5

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Top Row: Silver Age / 70s-80s / Retroboot / TMK / B-5 / SW6 / Emerald / 50s / 40s / Postboot 2

Bottom Row: Threeboot (x2) / Superman Animated / JLU Animated / Legion Animated (x3) / Superboy's Legion / Arthur Legion

 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
My favorite Brainy is the postboot one, I just loved that Calvin look Coipel gave him, sigh.
He should have a little cowlick, ya know.

The costumes that you have here are pretty interesting.

The Camelot look, with the ponytail on the side, is really memorable and appealing, as is the retroboot jacket and whatever it's called, the purple top and pants.

I also like the last of the 3 animated versions, only I like him in long sleeves the most.

Again, fun and wonderful!
 
Posted by lil'rhino on :
 
J'adore bowtie Brainy!!
It's so Ivy League!!
 
Posted by SharkLad on :
 
Brainy looks awesome! Emerald Brainy looks very cool...
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
[Bump] [Bump] [Bump] [Smile]

want to see Mon-El/Valor, Shrinking Violet, LIghtning Lass/Light Lass (which I believe has the largest # of costume due to lightning, feather, cloud, arrow emblem.) [Smile]

[ February 06, 2011, 03:49 AM: Message edited by: superboymddjr ]
 
Posted by BouncingBear on :
 
Where's the rest of the team? I was enjoying seeing all of your creations.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 12: KAL-EL / Clark Kent / Superboy / Superman

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Top Row: Superboy / Superboy 70s / Clark Kent / 90s Superman (x2) / Electric Superman Blue & Red / Black Logo / New Krypton
Bottom Row Superman Reed & Blue / Kingdom Come's Superboy / Legion Cartoon Superman / Superman X / Superboy's Legion (x2)

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 13: KON-EL / Conner Kent / Superboy

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Row: Superboy 90s (x3) / Superboy 2000 / Modern Superboy / Legion Modern (x2) / Karate Kid Civvies / Legion / Legion Workout / Tromium / Civvies

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Some Notes! I got so excited that I got Brainy done that I posted him before Superboy. Whoops! Luckily, depending on the continuity (like the current one), that isn't actually a flub at all. Since the super cousins kind of throw off the order of joining anymore, I've decided to post the Superpeople all at once. The two Superboys are finished and shortly I'll get to posting Supergirl.

I recognize that several outfits are missing for both Clark and Conner. However, on Clark especially, the thought of getting every outfit and variation for them is kind of daunting even if I was only doing his Legion appearances. Plus, I have to confess, I'm not the biggest fan of either character so these became kind of a chore after awhile (hence my slowness to post).

While I hit just a few major outfits for Clark, I tried to hit every little variation Conner has worn when he teamed-up with the Legion, much like I did with Kid Q and XS. The forthcoming Supergirl will also follow this formula, which is why she's not quite done yet.

Sorry for rambling. I love explaining myself, apparently. Hope you enjoy!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 14: KARA ZOR-EL / Supergirl
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Top Row: Linda Lee (x2) / Supergirl / Linda Lee (x3) / Brainy's Belt / Satan Girl (x2) / Unknown Legionnaire (x2) / Taurus Gang (x2)
Bottom Row: 70s / 80s / Matrix / Modern / Rokyn Patient / SG Annual #2 / SG Annual Swimsuit / Garth's Funeral / Kingdom Come / JLU 1 / JLU 2

 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
I love the rambling!
Everything that adds to the over all insight into not just the subject, but the process as well, is always 'faboo' (as lil'rhino sometimes says!)

I like Conner's #3, #6 and #10 outfits, especially #10 and I don't remember it from the stories.

And I've always loved the Kingdom Come Legion Superboy look!

Edit: since you added Supergirl while I was posting -
Matrix, whom I ended up not liking much as a character, and the Kingdom Come design, with the slight Andromeda feel.

[ February 15, 2011, 11:21 AM: Message edited by: Candlelight ]
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
While I agree with not going through every variation of Superman costume (most of which are irrelevant to the Legion, anyway), the one thing I would def add is the teenage Clark Kent red sweater look.

Other than that, awesome as always!
 
Posted by Dev Em on :
 
Brilliant as always.
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
You guys are willing to count Matrix?
 
Posted by Future on :
 
The Matrix version of Supergirl teamed up with the postboot Legion and Brainiac 5 once, so I counted her. The second issue of Supergirl annuals always seem to be a Brainy/Supergirl outing!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Well, the Linda Danvers/Matrix merged Supergirl at any rate. I didn't read the title regularly so I wasn't sure how to refer to her.
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Well, I wasn't saying it in a negative context. I like Matrix. I was just surprised, is all.
 
Posted by dadman on :
 
These are still looking fantastic Future!
 
Posted by ActorLad on :
 
Great stuff as usual, my only issue is wasn't the Kingdom Come Superboy supposed to be Kon rather then Kal?
 
Posted by BouncingBear on :
 
I'm really enjoying your work, now we do we get to see more. I anxious to see Star Boy, Sun Boy and Dream Girl.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ActorLad:
Great stuff as usual, my only issue is wasn't the Kingdom Come Superboy supposed to be Kon rather then Kal?

Kon did get that suit, you're right. He never wore it though and since I was putting the Kingdom Come Supergirl with Kara (as they were all new legacy characters technically), I figured I may as well put the Superboy version with Clark. At the time, Clark needed more Micros anyway but then I went overboard on adult Superman designs. Whoops.

Thom's on his way, one day, as well as a Legion beauty! Let's just say, "The bigger the hair, the closer to Valor."
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Night Girl?
 
Posted by Tempest on :
 
These are too freaking great!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 15: LAUREL GAND / Tiger Rose / Andromeda / Sister Andromeda

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Upper Row: Child (x3) / Orphanage / Legion / 5YL (x2) / Matronly / Legion Jacket / Khund Disguise (x2) / Infirmary / Jacketless
Middle Row: Immomen / Workout / Civvies / On the Run (x2) / Statue / SW6 / SW6 Swimsuit / SW6 90s Casual / SW6 Arthur Legion
Bottom Row: White Triangle (x2) / Legion Training / Transuit / Rain Gear / Legion / Planet Hell / Emerald / Sister Andromeda (x2) / Post-Anomaly / Superman Animated

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Phew. Never underestimate the power of Laurel Gand. She had more outfits than I could have imagined and I took a beating accordingly.

Gonna take a breather and then we'll resume with other Legionnaires, though most will just be their Legion uniforms and not as detailed as Laurel and other late-comers & retcons.

Thanks again to everyone for the kind words.
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Oh cool! You know, I don't remember Laurel appearing in that Elseworlds annual. Thank you.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
hey if you include the dead statue...she had another one....alongside Apparition during the White Triangle.

Sure miss Andromeda!! I still think that she can appear in this new earth's Legion...sigh.
 
Posted by Dev Em on :
 
For a late comer of a character, she had a lot of outfits.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sarcasm Kid:
Oh cool! You know, I don't remember Laurel appearing in that Elseworlds annual. Thank you.

She made an "unofficial" one panel cameo. On the last page of the annual, there's a tall girl colored with blond hair and a familiar orange, white, and black coloring looking displeased as a man with a mustache hits on her. It's not officially stated anywhere that it's Laurel, but given the 'star' emblem and the level of detail for someone in the background by both the penciler and colorist, I'd like to think it'd be her.

That annual is actually choc full of background people getting familiar Legionnaire coloring. Whether that's intentional or not, I don't know, but for fun I try to recreate them anyway when I come to those characters.
 
Posted by Sketch Lad on :
 
Isn't there a wedding Laurel in an annual?
 
Posted by KryptonKid on :
 
I don't remember an Emerald Andromeda, but that has to be the best of the Emerald costumes.

(Thanks again for the micro site [Smile] )
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by KryptonKid:
I don't remember an Emerald Andromeda, but that has to be the best of the Emerald costumes.

(Thanks again for the micro site [Smile] )

I agree with you. I notice myself that those Emerald costumes work rather well on some legionnaires...esp on Andromeda, Cos, Triad,and XS.

can't wait for more Legionnaires....Shrinking Violet, Sun Boy, Lightning/Light Lass soon! [Smile]
 
Posted by SharkLad on :
 
Beautiful... absolutely beautiful!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by KryptonKid:
I don't remember an Emerald Andromeda, but that has to be the best of the Emerald costumes.

Emerald Andromeda made her "imaginary" debut in Sovereign Seven + Legion of Super-Heroes #1!

As for the others, I knew I missed a few as I rushed Laurel out. I also neglected her Legion of Oz counterpart as well. Something to revisit when I do lap backs way, way, way down the line.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 16: THOM KALLOR / Star Boy

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Top Row: Silver Age, 70s, 80s, Retroboot, Magic Wars (5YL), End of an Era (x2) / SW6
Bottom Row: Postboot Planetary Champion / Amazer / Postboot / Emerald / Threeboot (x2) / Legion Toon / Superboy's Legion

 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Thank you for not including that god awful haircut with the SW6 version.
 
Posted by Sketch Lad on :
 
Technically, Thom's first 70s suit had the turtleneck, then the V neck, then the beard & turtleneck. I know... nit picks.

Also wondering if you'll be including a batball coach version of him - or does the 5YL version cover that?
 
Posted by Sketch Lad on :
 
Oh yeah, and didn't he have another look (dark boots?) during Legion of the Damned?
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
I love the three based on Kitson's designs.
I'm surprised since I disliked most of the Primeboot so much!

His Planetary Champion and SW6 looks are nice, too.
 
Posted by Sketch Lad on :
 
Sorry, I just read your "lap backs" comment. I won't go all AR anymore!

These sets are a lot of fun to see!
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
Hey, Future, do you have the S/LSH #238 which Legionnaires was dressed in different costumes....for instance, Star Boy has a green and black with a big STAR on his chest? That one I really like and it looked good on him. Same thing with Brainiac 5's wearing black and yellow stripes.

Also Star Boy's Sir Prize?

[ March 05, 2011, 03:27 AM: Message edited by: superboymddjr ]
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
and heh...probably you will kill me --- how about Brainiac 5 dressing up as Prince Projectur? [Smile]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
superboymddjr, variations like that for the more prominent Legionnaires will come later. I'm only doing what would have been their main looks for particular eras/realities. Otherwise, I'd have to spend weeks if not months on each Legionnaire just going through the past 40-50 years looking for variations. For minor or recent/retcon Legionnaires like XS or Laurel Gand there's less for me to have to mine through and it's easier for me to do more complete sets - and even then I always underestimate the number of outfits they've worn.

I intend to be thorough with all Legionnaires eventually, but it'll be when I'm all done with every major character and will have the chance to go through year by year of the Legion's vast publication history.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sketch Lad:
Technically, Thom's first 70s suit had the turtleneck, then the V neck, then the beard & turtleneck. I know... nit picks.

Also wondering if you'll be including a batball coach version of him - or does the 5YL version cover that?

But good nitpicks! I had completely forgotten Thom had the full starfield before the V-neck. It's also an easy micro to make so I'll probably shoe-horn that one in shortly.

The coach version and others mentioned, like the slight modifications to postboot Thom's uniform after Legion Lost, I'll definitely get to one day! You got it, it'll just be when I lap back - or maybe a better term would be a Phase 2 for everyone.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
I like 'lap back'!
It's descriptive and unique.
Like you.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 17: JO NAH / Ultra Boy / Emerald Dragon

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Top Row: Silver Age / 70s / Magic Wars / Retroboot / 5YL (x2) / Emerald Dragon / Postboot / Emerald / 50s Legion
Bottom Row: Threeboot (x2) / Legion Animated (x2) / Superman Animated / JLU Animated / Superboy's Legion / Arthur Legion

 
Posted by Dev Em on :
 
Great work as always.
 
Posted by BouncingBear on :
 
Where is Ultra Boy's 5yl costume. The one that showed his Ultra tattoo and pony tail?
 
Posted by Future on :
 
They're in the middle of the first row, BouncingBear. He has his jacket on for the costume that would have actually shown his tattoo and his other 5YL outfit by Immonen had a short sleeve that covered it.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
That's a sweet collection of outfits overall! I don't remember the second Legion Animated outfit at all, but it's pretty groovy!
 
Posted by BouncingBear on :
 
You're right! Thanks! Now when do we get to see our next Legionnaire and who will it be?????
 
Posted by BouncingBear on :
 
Hey Future, are you still going to be posting these wonderful Micro's?
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
^^^^^^^
I agree with Bear...it s been more than a month now and I am still waiting for the next one. [Smile]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 18: DIRK MORGNA / Sun Boy / Inferno

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Top Row: Silver Age / 70s / 80s / Magic Wars / Retroboot / Five Year Gap / SW6
Bottom Row: Threeboot (x3) / Black Lantern / Animated Legion (x3) / Superboy's Legion / Arthur Legion

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 19: TI'JULK MR'ASZ / Gates

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Top Row: Egg / Vrygan / Legion / Transuit / Xanthu Brawl / Emerald / Scarf / Greenpeace / Trench
Bottom Row: Formal / Job Interview / Delivery / L* #61 / Ra's Prisoner / Legion #18 / VR War Game / Hood Down

 
Posted by Power Boy on :
 
fantastico !!!
 
Posted by Power Boy on :
 
fantastico !!!
 
Posted by Jerry on :
 
Awesome. Amazing. Bravo! Some of those Gates looks made me laugh out loud.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
The fact Gates has existed 15 years without his own mini-series is a crime. He's a visual/comedic gold mine (props to Giffen or Levitz tossing him into Dirk's VR war game in the recent annual to prove my point).

Edited the first post of this thread to be a pseudo table of contents, linking to the various submissions so you don't have to hunt through the thread for a specific character. May start modifying the thread title as well for when there's updates.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Wow, these are so amazing!
First, SB is timely since I'm just starting Sarcasm Kid's sumo Sun Boy design and you have saved me an enormous amount of work using Jo's images - I use your micros to start with since I don't actually know how to make micros from scratch.
Thank-you!
sigh

Second, except for the first 3, where the 'outside underpants' actually LOOK like underpants, opening and all, Dirk's outfits have been so dynamic and beautiful!

Third, GATES!
He's way out of sequence and I LOVE that you did him/that since he's going to be in the new Legion Lost series in September!!!

And since Shady took a nose dive in Threeboot and the Retroboot, Gates has moved up from my second favorite Legionnaire of all time to my favorite Legionnaire of all time.
What a darling and you started him from an egg!
[ROTFLMAO]
This feels like my birthday and I got 2 great presents!
[Yes]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 20: SALU DIGBY / Shrinking Violet / Vi / Virus / LeViathan / Atom Girl

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Top Row: Silver Age / 70s / 80s / Magic Wars / Retroboot / 5 Year Gap (x2) / On the Run
Middle Row: SW6 / Audition / Emerald Influence (x2) / Emerald Vi / Leviathan / 40s Legion
Bottom Row: Threeboot (x2) / Animated Legion (x2) / Superboy's Legion / Arthur Legion

 
Posted by Future on :
 
I excluded Violet's purple outfit she wore when Giffen took over pencils, seeing as how it was actually only ever worn by Yera. That costume and other Vi designs during that time period will show up when I get Chameleon Girl all done.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
These are so beautiful.
How do you do so many with so much detail?!

It takes me forever to make a sumo Legionnaire and trying to get the detail needed.

And I have YOUR work to start with!
You're amazing.
 
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
 
Gates in his shell... hee-hee!

You left out SW6 Dirk in his flame-motif swimsuit from the Legionnaires-in-Atlantis (or was it Poseidonis?) issue... I know, it was a one-off...

I love Sun Boy #3-- underwear-on-the-outside and all. I don't think those lines represent a fly, though I guess they might. I think they're just lines.
 
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
 
Y'know, I kind of wish Vi would wear that outfit- if only to freak Yera out (though I guess *that's* moot for awhile). Maybe she'd be 'reclaiming' it? Who knows, maybe she had it hanging in her closet at HQ waiting for the right moment to first wear it when Yera usurped her big 'debut'.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
no bionic blue leg for violet? well it d be a fun .... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Ummm, Yera is wearing lavendar/purple on the cover of Legion Lost, isn't she?

And, yes, ML, I suspect that Dirk's outside underwear isn't really functional underpants, lol, I just think that they LOOK like it.
[Yes]

[ June 27, 2011, 04:58 PM: Message edited by: Candlelight ]
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
with the Legion Lost and the LSH coming soon with a "new" Jim Lee design (look at Tyroc, Dawnstar, Wildfire, Timber Wolf? - all new costume and all females are required to wear long pants or whatever that is), will it be added to each Legionnaires?
 
Posted by Future on :
 
I'll add them for the characters I haven't done yet, superboymddjr. Ones I've already done I'll add on a later date.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
The cover for Supergirl doesn't show her in long pants, actually.
Just not a skirt.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 21: CHUCK TAINE / Bouncing Boy

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Top Row: Silver Age / 80s / Retroboot / UP Academy / SW6 / Postboot (x2)
Bottom Row: Superman Toon / JLU Toon / Legion Toon (x3) / Superboy's Legion

 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Nice job. I never noticed the difference in the Legion toon outfits before.
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
and I never noticed the difference in BB's Silver Age and 80s looks either! Two thumbs up!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 22: ZOE SAUGIN / Kinetix

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Postboot / Mystical / Emerald / Post-Mysticism (x4) / Post-Anomaly (x2) / Terrorform

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 23: TENZIL KEM / Matter-Eater Lad

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Top Row: Silver Age / 80s / TMK (x2) / Batch SW6
Bottom Row: Postboot (x2) / Threeboot / Legion Toon / Superboy's Legion / Knight Legion

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 24: LAR GAND / Mon-El / Marvel Lad / M'Onel

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Top Row: Silver Age / 21st Century / Marvel Lad (x2) / 70s / Green Lantern / DCNu
Bottom Row: Zero Hour (x2) / Postboot / Emerald / Postboot 2 / Threeboot

 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
He was Marvel Lad? Didn't know that.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 25: JAN ARRAH / Element Lad / Mystery Lad / Alchemist

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Top Row: Mystery Lad / Silver Age / 70s / 80s / Magic Wars / Retroboot / TMK (x2)
Middle Row: Postboot / Emerald / 40s Legion / Progenitor / Threeboot (x2) / Black Lantern
Bottom Row: Legion Toon (x4) / Superboy's Legion / Knight Legion

 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Jan had four cartoon outfits?

I like Black Lantern Jan the best, though.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sarcasm Kid:
He was Marvel Lad? Didn't know that.

Yep! He posed as Marvel Lad as a prank once he was freed from the Phantom Zone in Adventure Comics #305. He then also asked to be sent back into the Phantom Zone for ten minutes so he could gloat to the villains who were still trapped there.

Ah, the Silver Age.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sarcasm Kid:
Jan had four cartoon outfits?

I like Black Lantern Jan the best, though.

Indeed! Which is pretty funny considering he had no speaking lines in the show (though he did have an issue in the comic adaption). They were his first costume which appeared in the flashback episode, his season 1 outfit, his season 2 outfit, and then his season 2 outfit was colored white for his comic book appearances. Technically there should be a fifth look. Jan didn't sport the goatee in season 2 until halfway through the season.
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Boy that's uh, that's screwy.
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Two characters with facial hair on that show. Must've been getting popular.
 
Posted by Exnihil on :
 
Yay, a Future blitz! Great work, as always, though you did miss the strangest Jan costume of all:

http://www.legionworld.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=000016;p=1#000013

Kirby Jan!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 26: AYLA RANZZ / Lightning Lass/ Light Lass / Gossamer / Pulse / Spark

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Top Row: "Lightning Lad" / Silver Age (x3) / 70s (x2) / 80s (x2) / Magic Wars / Retroboot / TMK (x2) / Pulse
Bottom Row: SW6 / Postboot / Emerald / 50s Legion / Threeboot (x2) / Superman Toon / Superboy's Legion / Knight Legion

 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Exnihil:
Yay, a Future blitz! Great work, as always, though you did miss the strangest Jan costume of all:

http://www.legionworld.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=000016;p=1#000013

Kirby Jan!

Thanks, Ex! I did think of making that Jan costume despite the fact it was a one off (I think it was George Perez who designed it?). After I stared at it for a few seconds though, I decided to take the lazy way out and skipped it for the time being.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
oh please do include Element Lad s Kirbyesque (by the way, not George Perez designed it....I think it was Mike Grell or Joseph Rubenstein or James Sherman in TDT Legion book) soon...if you can do others, then you can do it.

By the way, where's Ayla with blonde hair? Ayla with baseball hat (I admit, when I saw her with baseball cap and overall, I absolutely LOVED her in that one!!!! [Love] ) Kinetix in her Science Police uniform?
 
Posted by Future on :
 
I'm just covering their main costumes right now. As previously stated, I want to go back and do one-off outfits and casual clothes at a later time. With the amount of time it takes to make each of these, it'd be months between a single update if I tried to be thorough on Legionnaires with 50 years of history and I'd probably still miss some designs.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
alright, then here's hoping to see Mon-El in both puff sleeve costume and Bobb Kohan civilian suit. [Smile]

by the way I am surprised that i did not noticed the color scheme change on Mystery Lad's and Element Lad's leggings!

I like the Emerald E-Lad best....BL E-Lad comes close 2nd.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 27: NURA NAL / Dream Girl / Dream Woman / Dreamer

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Top Row: Silver Age / 70s / 80s / Retroboot / 5YL Magic Wars (x2) / SW6 / Postboot
Bottom Row: Threeboot / Superman Toon / Legion Toon (x2) / Adult Legion (Superman/Batman) / Superboy's Legion

 
Posted by Dev - Em on :
 
Awe inspiring as always.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Thanks, Dev. It's hard not to be around any Dreamy media. [Dream Girl]
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
These are so amazing.
People who haven't done one of these have no idea how much effort it is to do them, and you do so many!
And so incredibly well!
sigh
 
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
 
Wow- how much do I love page 11?

Is Emerald Legion Jan the Legionnaire with the least green in his outfit? I kind of thought he had some facial hair going on- did I combine that with Jan Prime in my mind? I find myself really drawn to the fin-head 40's look- and then to the pink and white, surprisingly.

I still like the fan-designed Air Legion stewardess look for Ayla. And classic Mon- though it'd be fun if he adopted the Marvel Lad persona for some reason or other again. If only for a story or storyline.

For Dreamy, it's all about the hair. I don't have any strong preference for or against any of her uniforms (except possibly slightly disliking Nura for the Defense from Superman/Batman), but her hairstyle and color makes all the difference! I kind of miss the flowy skirt from pre-membership postboot.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mystery Lad:

For Dreamy, it's all about the hair. I don't have any strong preference for or against any of her uniforms (except possibly slightly disliking Nura for the Defense from Superman/Batman), but her hairstyle and color makes all the difference! I kind of miss the flowy skirt from pre-membership postboot.

And the CAPE!! I like seeing her wearing the cape, a few times in Adventure Comics and at least twice or three times during DnA era. it made her beautiful, alluring and regal at the same time.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Page 11 is a pretty great collection of Legionnaires. They're all ones I want to expand on too, so they'll get some love in the future again.

quote:
Originally posted by Mystery Lad:
Is Emerald Legion Jan the Legionnaire with the least green in his outfit? I kind of thought he had some facial hair going on- did I combine that with Jan Prime in my mind?

Very close! Looking at his Emerald outfit, Jan really didn't have a lot of green. His was just a subtle hue where the white normally was. I think only Emerald Lyle has him beat for being devoid of green. I don't believe I spotted a goatee on Emerald Jan. Ultra Boy did gain one though while Lyle got a soul patch.

Chalk me up as well as a fan of Nura having flowing clothing, be it a cape or a skirt. While I may not have done a lot of micros for those styles yet, I did like how the skirts on Nura looked in TMK and the postboot.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
It's strange to realize that I'm far enough through the Legionnaires to have a few teams done. Here's some team compositions for those I've completed:

Team Submission 1 - Emerald Legion
Click for fullsize image

 
Posted by Dev - Em on :
 
Awesomesauce!!!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Team Submission 2 - 40s Legion (Legionnaires #54)
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Posted by kenaustin on :
 
I gotta say...I like the micros and all, but I really like them in the team shots. More please! [Smile]
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
love the team shots!!! [Smile]
 
Posted by Exnihil on :
 
Those group shots are so cool, Future!

Emerald Legion... and... set desktop background! [Smile]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 28: HART DRUITER / Nemesis Kid

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Row: Silver Age / 80s / Zombie / Threeboot / Legion Toon (x2) / Knight Legion / Superboy's Legion

 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
On the Emerald Legion, I'm holding out for Magno, Umbra and Sensor.
Ummm, were they in the Legion for Vi as the Empress?
I hope so!
[Yes]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Unfortunately not, Candle. Magno, Umbra, and Sensor debuted after the Emerald Legion storyline. That's why I went ahead and posted the team photo - they're one of the few teams I have completely finished.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
come to think of it, I really like Nemesis Kid's costume from the Legion Toon the best. I like how it was designed. hmm.
 
Posted by Exnihil on :
 
Love Zombie Nemesis Kid! Is that from that 5YL arc?
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
yes from 5YL, whereas Jewel, AKA Mysa, became Princess Amethyst and fought Mordru....I think around Legion #48 to #50.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Yep! LSH v4 #47 specifically. My favorite moment of that issue, aside from Devlin trapped in Mordru's harem, is Jeckie coming out of nowhere and killing Nemesis Kid with her bare hands ... for the second time.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
ah one issue off! not bad esp I have a short term memory. [Smile]
 
Posted by Power Boy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Future:
Yep! LSH v4 #47 specifically. My favorite moment of that issue, aside from Devlin trapped in Mordru's harem, is Jeckie coming out of nowhere and killing Nemesis Kid with her bare hands ... for the second time.

I loved that moment .... and I love your micros!!! I like the group scenes ! That issue of the Emerald Legion is one of the only reboot issues I have ... I bought it for the costumes.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 29: DYRK MAGZ / Magno

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Top Row: Audition / Legionnaire / Medicus One / Civilian (x3) / Test Subject (x2) / Pajamas / Civilian
Bottom Row: Legion Support Staff (x4) / Updated Legionnaire / Bizarro / Beach Wear / Swimsuit / Post-Blight (x2) / Science Police (x2)

 
Posted by Dev - Em on :
 
Wow...a lot of looks for Magno, especially considering how he was not around that long.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Yeah, I was surprised how many unique civilian looks he had as Legion support staff. I thought he wore the 'vest' version of Chuck's jacket more than he actually did.

I thought he wouldn't take long but, again, he had more looks than I realized. Good grief! Six of his looks alone were from Legionnaires #53 (after the Medicus One look).
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
hmmm I do find myself strangley that he is attractive....no matter what uniform he wears...I like the white/purple/black the best...hmm
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Oh, boy!
Does this mean Umbra/Shadow Lass is next?!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Shady is a few away, but there are some more traditional & postboot faces coming next.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
hmmm Princess Projectra/Sensor Girl? or Sensor? or Karate Kid I?

Ferro Lad?
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 30: ANDREW NOLAN / Ferro Lad / Ferro

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Top Row: Preboot / Ghost / Mordruverse / Batch SW6 / Postboot (x2) / Legion Toon / Superboy's Legion / Arthur Legion
Bottom Row: Memorial Statue / Iron versions (x7)


[ September 11, 2011, 08:35 AM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by Dev - Em on :
 
No Glorith-verse version?
 
Posted by Shining Son on :
 
I saw the second image and checked what it was supposed to be, and I went "Ghost???"

Then I remembered, oh yeah, ghosts on DC covers in the 60's were always transparent green.

Most glow-in-the-dark toys at the time glowed green, so I guess it was a sensible choice to get "ghostly" across to kids.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
So, we get Val and Jeckie next?
Jeckie is going to be so fun!
The only one with as many 'looks' as her over the years that I can think of, is probably Mysa.
(Not costume changes exactly, but 'looks'.}
[Yes]
Brin has quite a few, too.

[ September 10, 2011, 04:47 PM: Message edited by: Candlelight ]
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
*gasp* no Ferro from Mordruverse!!!???!!! that was my favorite version of Ferro! I loved his Spy/Adventure/Rebel style...absolutely liked the Mordruverse if the series remained continuing...then Ferro would definitely be one of the shining star! next time when you come back to do some more revisions, make sure that Ferro's on your list....no fair that Magno has his hospital gown on it and only once!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
I consciously skipped Mordruverse Andrew because I don't have the issue on me right now for reference.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 31: VAL ARMORR / Karate Kid

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Top Row: Silver Age / Fan Design / 70s / Giffen / Postboot (x2)
Bottom Row: Threeboot (x2) / Legion Toon / Knight Legion / Superboy's Legion


[ September 11, 2011, 08:50 AM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Also, everyone can lower the cannons. Mordruverse Andrew has been added one page back to Ferro Lad. Thanks to Sarcasm Kid for the reference.
 
Posted by Dev - Em on :
 
No cannons Future...just one of my fave versions of him. Was just surprised not to see him is all.
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Just trying to help, Future.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Well, however it happened, I <3 the Mordruverse Andrew.
Lovely job, Future!

Val's are great, too!

I SO look forward to each new installment!
[Yes]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Thanks, Shady and everyone. I really like how Mordruverse Andy turned out so I'm glad I went back and did him. My cannon remark should have had a [Big Grin] on it. Oh, Internet. You vex me.

I was surprised Val didn't have a lot of major outfits across as many continuities as he's been in.

Coming one day (not sure when)... [Princess Projectra] [Sensor Girl]
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
YAYYYAYAYAY!!!!! happy to see MV Ferro Lad! [Hug] thanks and you did an awesome job!!
 
Posted by Lard Lad on :
 
Thanks for adding the Mordruverse version of Mr. Nolan, Future! I think it's obvious that version has a very dear place in our (5YL fans) hearts. I think that may be because it was probably the best look we ever got at the pre-boot Andy, albeit an altered version of him. [Hug]
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
I wish we could see all of the Mordruverse characters. There were only a few of them, but they were really memorable.
Besides Mordru, there was Glorith, Mysa, Rond and Andrew, that I remember off hand. Were there others?
Anyway, theey would make a great group shot.
[Yes]

Did Val get to have more outfits in his mini series and then, in Action+ years later, with Una and company?
I agree that I thought he should have had more.

[ September 12, 2011, 01:11 AM: Message edited by: Candlelight ]
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Mano. He was lieutenant to Mordru.

No, I don't think Val had any other outfits.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Do you remember the mini-series?
Not even jeans and a T?
Oh, well.
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Oh did you mean the Karate Kid series? I thought you meant Countdown. I've only read one issue of Val's series, so I'm not sure.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Yes, his series.
It didn't last more than a year or so, did it?
I need to go to the story archives, etc., and find out, if I ever get the time.
[Yes]
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
the countdown where KK was starring was HORRIBLE!!! bad artwork....it hurt your eyes...bad bad bad. [No]

however the KK 15 issues - he was ALWAYS in the costume...never in civilian costume. imagine that! 24/7 costume! It lasted more than a year...15 issues then Kamandi #59 just on time during the DC Implosion.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Outside of a Rotting Corpse with a Sheet Over It, I don't think Val had any other looks in Countdown - BUT I could be remembering wrong because I read that book once and that was it.

One look I DID skip was the Karate Kid fellow in LSH v6 #6 - mostly because we never got exact clarification that WAS Val.
 
Posted by Dev - Em on :
 
Fair enough on the young KK. I do hope that is picked up on at some point...doubt it though.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 32: PROJECTRA / Princess Projectra / Queen Projectra / Sensor Girl

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Top Row: Silver Age / Fan Costume / 70s / Giffen Designs (x3) / Sensor Girl (x3) / Magic Wars
Bottom Row: Retroboot (x2) / TMK / Threeboot (x2) / JLA: Another Nail / Knight Legion


[ September 15, 2011, 01:46 PM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Hmm, I remember Projectra from Superboy's Legion looking more like her Silver Age counterpart, yet she wore her hair in a bun instead of the Zsa Zsa look.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Ack. Actually, that's not Superboy's Legion Projectra ... that's JLA: The Nail Projectra. My bad. Superboy's Legion Jeckie is actually Sensor and will be listed with her accordingly.
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Oh! I'm sorry. I remembered seeing Jeckie in Another Nail but it was only a brief glance.

Actually, I love that one of her in the black outfit with the red pattern.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
No, I'm glad you caught it. All the Alan Davis art blurred together for a second.

It's a cool design, isn't it? Between their resignation and wedding, Val and Jeckie popped up a few times. Val was always in the same brown and orange duds but Jeckie's outfit changed every time.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 33: JEKA WYNZORR / Sensor

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Top Row: Sneckie / Legion / Gala / Miner / Science Police
Bottom Row: Human Illusions (x3) / DnA (x2) / Superboy's Legion

 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
I love the black and red, the Magic Wars and the Knight Legion looks for Jeckie.
She had a lovely one in the end of the Great Darkness Saga, too, which I don't unless it's supposed to be the first one of the Giffen designs.(?)

Snecky with the robot arms, glass of wine, fruit hat and tongue hanging out is so funny, [LOL] .
I love the Naga.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Candlelight:
She had a lovely one in the end of the Great Darkness Saga, too, which I don't unless it's supposed to be the first one of the Giffen designs.(?)

You got it, the first of the Giffen designs is the one she wore at the end of the GDS. Granted, it's not the best angle - it's hard to see the crest hip-skirt she wore and I probably didn't do the best job in making the orange look as shiny as it was.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
No, it's fine, I just didn't remember a black and red belt.
And the way she's turned makes the red stripe and crown hard to see.
 
Posted by Exnihil on :
 
Love, love, love Magic Wars Jeckie! That is probably my favorite Legion costume ever. And fruit hat Sneckie never fails to crack me up.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
still the awesome job!! and no tattered clothes of Jeckie when she killed Nemesis Kid, eh? heh. [Big Grin]

Timber Wolf will be next, right?

[ September 16, 2011, 08:06 AM: Message edited by: superboymddjr ]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by superboymddjr:
Timber Wolf will be next, right?

Not yet on Wolf! Shady will be before him, as well as some reboot additions.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Hurray!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 34: SANDY ANDERSON / Inferno

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Outfits: Workforce / Planet Hell / Legion / Transuit / Civilian 1 / Nightmare Costume / Swan's 50s Legion / Legion 2 / Civilian 2 /

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 35: CANDI PYPONTE LE-PARC III / Monstress

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First Row: Pre-Accident (x2) / Post-Accident / Uncanny Amazer / Test Costumes (x2) / Legion Costumes (x2) / Transuit
Second Row: Kinetix's Cape / Legionnaires #61 / Workout / Fashions by Olsen (x5)
Third Row: Monstresses of a Different Color (Legionnaires #68)
Fourth Row: Orange Legion / Transuit / Summer World (x3) / Superboy's Legion

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Missing a few Inferno micros, but I don't have her mini series on me to do the one or two outfits she had in a flashback. I also chose not to include Beauty Blaze or threeboot Inferno with her, as while the characters all have similarities they've never been directly linked (and have enough differences to me anyway).

I don't know why, but once I started making Monstress micros I just couldn't stop. I think I was having fun getting to work with and tweak a new template. It's never something I thought I'd say 12-some years ago, but I really miss the character. It's been fun re-reading her in all her ridiculousness.

It's kind of surreal when I update the main post of this thread and realize how many Legionnaires I've done already. Still a lot to go, and even more outfits to go back and do for already published characters! Let's not get started on the villains and supporting cast...

Shadow Lass and Kid Quantum II are up next.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
I love Monstress!
All of her colors and outfits are wonderful.
And look at her vacation looks.
Superdooper!
 
Posted by Whitelighter on :
 
Okay, it's official, I love these all!! I'm so behind on posts I almost missed these beauties... I'm patiently waiting for Mysa, Dawnstar and Kono!! Always my favorites. I know my bro, Joffre would love to see these too, since he's such a HUGE Legion fan.

I'm working on getting his site back up (may take a while, it crashed bigtime on me), but I bet he'll want to add some of them to his page (or mine, and I'll credit you of course) with these. I use Joffre's hair all the time, that man is a genius when it comes to that.

You did a few suits that I was scared to do... got courage [Big Grin] Makes me want to update my Legion micros.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
those Monstress...sure reminds me heavily of Shrek's wife....I blanked out her name. [Embarrassed]
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Fiona.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
I can definitely see the Shrek resemblance during her green-skinned days!

Thanks for the continued compliments, everyone. Haven't worked on anything in the past week - perhaps that'll change this weekend.
 
Posted by Fat Cramer on :
 
These are wonderful Future - and an important historical record! I'm especially looking forward to Shadow Lass.
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Future:
Submission 22: ZOE SAUGIN / Kinetix

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Postboot / Mystical / Emerald / Post-Mysticism (x4) / Post-Anomaly (x2) / Terrorform

Love them! So, are you gonna do a series of Zoe in civvie wear too, like you did for Monstress and Magno? [Razz] That'd be awesome... and time-consuming. In her debut issue alone, she had 5 outfits; in the Summer World issue, she had three swimsuits; and then there's her sci-cop costume, her dress in Legionnaires 23, her outfit in Legionnaires 61, and her explorer outfit.
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
PS I can't get over how THOROUGH you are! Great job, Future!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
You got it, IB. I was going to do all of Kinetix's civilian outfits, but then after doing her debut issue alone suddenly realized how many costume changes she makes. I also remembered her closet, where presumably she's worn all those clothes at least once. Oy. So I'll be getting back to her later.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 36: TASMIA MALLOR / Shadow Lass / Shadow Woman / Umbra

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First Row: Silver Age / 70s (x3) / 80s (x3) / Retroboot / TMK / Shadow Woman
Second Row: Postboot (x3) / Threeboot (x2) / Superman Toon / JLU Toon / Superboy's Legion

 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
[Proty]

I would like to see her try-out costume, her Origin story, on Talok growing up outfit(s), both in the reboot and her nun/mourning robes in TMK, though, if you ever get the time and inclination.
 
Posted by razsolo on :
 
That 80's bodysuit/skullcap combo is my absolute favourite Shady costume ever...so simple, but really elegant. [Smile]
 
Posted by Jerry on :
 
She has some awesome looks!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 37: JAZMIN CULLEN / Kid Quantum II

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First Row: Kid / James' Death / Amazer (x2) / Legion (x3) / Shopping Outfit / Swimsuit
Second Row: Blighted / UP Jacket (x2) / DnA Legion (x2) / Legion Jacket / Jumpsuit / PJs / Tromium

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 38: I.Z.O.R. / Gear

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Looks: Slave / Casual / Legion / Transuit / Maintenance

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Shady really did have some great looks, especially considering the limited color palette she works with. I loved the leather and noir look of the Threeboot as well as her 80s bodysuits. Superboy's Legion Shady also had a great visual.

Here's a few more Postboot Legionnaires: Jazmin and Gear. Kid Quantum II is one of my favorite Legionnaires, waned only by her overexposure near the end of DnA's run. Gear was a great concept that never got time to shine. I loved him in Giffen's fill-in issue of The Legion.

Coming one day (probably not soon) ... Chemical King, Thunder, and Timber Wolf.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 39: Condo Arlik / Chemical King

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Top Row: Secret Origins (x3) / Legion Academy / Silver Age (x2) / Space Suit / 70s / Statue
Bottom Row: Postboot (x3) / Kingdom Come / Legion Toon / Superboy's Legion

 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
I wasn't expecting much in way of variety for Condo.
 
Posted by Whitelighter on :
 
Neither was I, wow, he had alot [Big Grin]
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
loved and still love Chemical King...I think his costume is one of the best Legion ever...green and black - so simple. I remember seeing him wearing a "C" on his belt before...but I cannot recall which issue of SLSH he did have a C belt. so you did a awesome job on Condo! I sure miss him! I was hoping that there is a way that he could be brought back alive...but nah..because we have Chemical Kid now in Legion! *grumble*
 
Posted by Future on :
 
As near as I could tell, the 'C' belt was only from the cover of his death issue in S&LSH. That didn't surprise me too much. Going through Condo's appearances, I realized his costume changed literally every artist - sometimes mid-issue. The basics were always the same, but the boot shape, cuffs, belt, and collar would always mutate and the color scheme occasionally shifted.

Instead of doing all the little variations, I just did the most common variation I saw - him going between brown V boots and black standard boots. Of course, the color scheme flipped a lot on both, but it gets the point across I hope.

With that in mind, his Postboot appearances are very amusing. He only made a few small cameos and visits, but when he did he was always wearing the same outfit - just colored differently. His skin color would darken a little as well, usually from page to page. I thought it was just color goofs, which surprised me from McCraw, until I realized they may be paying homage to Condo's constantly shifting uniform. His first postboot micro, a formal look, changed colors (as did Condo himself!) every scene jump we did.
 
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
 
Maybe he was using his power on the pigmentation process of dyes in his clothing and in his skin?

It would be kind of a neat addition to him that he was *always* using his powers-- that he had to really concentrate to turn them completely off.

I'm glad you didn't do a zombiefied version from the 5YL book.

I always wished Grell had given him one of his skimpy costumes- at least for an issue or two. It would completely have made sense for him to go back to his fully-covered uniform, due to his personality. But if Imra would wear what she wore, I think *any* Legionnaire would show some skin.
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
Maybe Condo could have saved the skimpy costume for
"sessions" with Lyle [Big Grin] Lyle was still alive during the beginning of the Grell era, right?
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
Maybe Condo could have saved the skimpy costume for
"sessions" with Lyle [Big Grin] Lyle was still alive during the beginning of the Grell era, right?
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Future:
You got it, IB. I was going to do all of Kinetix's civilian outfits, but then after doing her debut issue alone suddenly realized how many costume changes she makes. I also remembered her closet, where presumably she's worn all those clothes at least once. Oy. So I'll be getting back to her later.

Looking forward to that! Thanks, Future [Big Grin] Man... that closet has got to have had at least 50 outfits. You sure you wanna do all those?
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac:
Maybe Condo could have saved the skimpy costume for
"sessions" with Lyle [Big Grin] Lyle was still alive during the beginning of the Grell era, right?

affirmative [Yes]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 40: CeCe Beck / Thunder

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Row: Young CeCe / Thunder / Adopted Clothes / Legion / Transuit / Possessed / Capeless / LSH #116 / Rock of Eternity / Damned

 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
...that hat.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
It was floating as near as I can tell in the panel, funny enough.
 
Posted by Exnihil on :
 
Never really a fan of the Captain Marvel color scheme on Thunder (though your work on it is great as always), and that's why I'm intrigued by the LSH 116 look. What is the story there? Was that just a civilian outfit? I like that so much better than her costume.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Exnihil:
Never really a fan of the Captain Marvel color scheme on Thunder (though your work on it is great as always), and that's why I'm intrigued by the LSH 116 look. What is the story there? Was that just a civilian outfit? I like that so much better than her costume.

Yeah, it was just a civilian outfit from when she accidentally got transported to her home time. One a young girl would wear in the 85th century, I suppose. Loincloths are the new skirts if Andromeda taught us anything.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
sp who'll be next? Timber Wolf?
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac:
quote:
Originally posted by Future:
You got it, IB. I was going to do all of Kinetix's civilian outfits, but then after doing her debut issue alone suddenly realized how many costume changes she makes. I also remembered her closet, where presumably she's worn all those clothes at least once. Oy. So I'll be getting back to her later.

Looking forward to that! Thanks, Future [Big Grin] Man... that closet has got to have had at least 50 outfits. You sure you wanna do all those?
and dont forget to add the science police uniform ! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by superboymddjr:
sp who'll be next? Timber Wolf?

Timber Wolf is next, but he's going to take me a bit I can tell. You'll see him spring up probably closer to or in November.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 41: Brin Londo / Lone Wolf / Timber Wolf / Furball

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Top Row: Silver Age / Legion Academy / 70s / Post-Surgery / Giffen Design / Lightle Design / Magic Wars / Retroboot / DCNu
Middle Row: Glorithverse (x2) / Postboot (x3) / Threeboot (x2)
Bottom Row: JLU Cartoon / Legion Animated (x2) / Kingdom Come / Superboy's Legion

 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Legion Lost already?
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
I LOVE that Future included the LOSTDCNu!
My favorite looks for Brin were when he had the long hair with the white streaks.
Otherwise he looks a little too much like Jo.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
when will we see Wildfire? I think he's the next one after Timber Wolf, right?
 
Posted by Future on :
 
He's next, but he may take a little while. Even after all this time I'd say he's only 20% done. He's got a lot more different textures with his suits/armors/effects than other Legionnaires.

COMING IN 2012...(at the rate I'm going)
Wildfire
Tyroc
Dawnstar
Shikari

With Gazelle and the remaining Threebooters thrown in somewhere for variety.
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
Love how you even have the different hairstyles down pat!

quote:
Originally posted by superboymddjr:
quote:
Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac:
quote:
Originally posted by Future:
You got it, IB. I was going to do all of Kinetix's civilian outfits, but then after doing her debut issue alone suddenly realized how many costume changes she makes. I also remembered her closet, where presumably she's worn all those clothes at least once. Oy. So I'll be getting back to her later.

Looking forward to that! Thanks, Future [Big Grin] Man... that closet has got to have had at least 50 outfits. You sure you wanna do all those?
and dont forget to add the science police uniform ! [Big Grin]
And the explorer outfit... and the swimsuits (3 in Legionnaires 77 alone!)... and her tryout outfit... and her look in Legionnaires 66...

ok, will shut up already [Razz]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Gotta love updating this thread when I have no micros to post. I'm sure it tricks half the viewers who are hanging out on the main LegionWorld hub into thinking I'm making a legitimate update.


First, Wildfire is about 60% done now. He may still make 2011 yet. He'll add about 20 new micros to the arsenal.

Second, my goal as of right now is to continue making official costumes for Legionnaires until I get to my very last one - be that Dragonwing, Bloodclaw, Sizzle, whoever. After that, it's a toss up. I'll either do my first ever "lap back" and start adding some missing outfits and fun looks for already posted Legionnaires ... OR I may start going through the Legion's history and creating micros for the villains and supporting cast members. I haven't decided yet. Either way it'll be an undertaking, but opinions of what you the viewer would like to see first is appreciated.

Third, it's nearly the one year anniversary of Future's Legion Micros on Legion World. It's about a month and five days away so it may seem premature to celebrate. However, I was making these little guys months before I decided to post them on the board so I'm more having a belated and public congratulations to myself for actually keeping with an art project for longer than a day.

In that regard, I went back and counted the number of Micro Heroes I've made for the Legion. 742! That's not bad, especially considering there's about 100+ more from this past year that are Marvel and other properties that I don't post here.

Lastly, I made my first ever teaser of what's to come as a thank you for all of you who have viewed or commented in the past year. Hopefully this will motivate me to continue as I was starting to lose some steam the last few months.

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Here's to many more! Thanks again, Legion World.
 
Posted by Dev - Em on :
 
DANG IT!!!

Nice preview! [Wink]
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
Hey Future - have you thought about doing the Substitute Heroes?

can't wait to see Yera, Jacques, White Witch, Blok, TYROC!!!, Wildfire too.... [Smile] [Smile] [Hug]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
The Subs will be coming. I consider them Legionnaires both for their 'off panel' time during the Five Year Gap as well as their lengthy tenure assisting the Legion. When I close out the Baxter Legion with Polar Boy, I'll probably then run through Night Girl, Fire Lad, etc.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 42: Drake Burroughs / ERG-1 / Wildfire / NRG / Wildflame

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Top Row: Anti-Energy / 70s / Giffen Redesign / Dream Drake / Lightle Redesign / Energy Form / Magic Wars / Frank Redesign / Cinar Redesign / DCNu
Middle Row: Black Dawn / Glorithverse / NRG / Atom'X / Blast-Off / Postboot ERG-1 / Postboot Wildfire
Bottom Row: Threeboot / Dead Earth / JLU Toon / Superboy's Legion

 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
The Timber Wolfs are the most amazingly different designs so far, I think.
Wonderful.

These Wildfires are awesome, too.
I especially love the postboot and Cinar designs, possibly because they're similar in colors.
I'm not a fan of the underpant look, either.
[Smile]

Thank-you for so much incredible work, for not pooping out and for lots of inspiration to budding micro makers!
[Hug]
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
I never knew there was a difference between the 70s and the 80s Wildfire suit.
 
Posted by BouncingBear on :
 
Hi Future. Anything new coming soon?
 
Posted by Future on :
 
I'm slowing down a little bit in my production, but work is still being made on occasion. The next micro is coming ... now!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 43: Troy Stewart / Tyroc

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Costumes: 70s / Retroboot / DCNu / Glorithverse / Animated Legion (Origin) / Animated Legion (Season 1) / Animated Legion (Season 2)

 
Posted by Blacula on :
 
Excellent job as usual Future!

As much as I hated Cinar(?)'s red costume for Tyroc, I don't mind the way his latest Lost one incorporates elements of it, while still paying primary homage to his orginal 70s one.

And I like that nearly all of the costumes have stuck with those silver ball things on his chest. Hopefully they'll become an instantly identifiable motif/logo/maybe even monitor board symbol for him too.
 
Posted by razsolo on :
 
I never realised Wildfire had so much variation in his containment suits before! I guess if he's gonna go get 'em blown up every other week, why not change it up a bit..? [Wink]

I hated the Cinar Tyroc costume, but it looks decent here....the final animated Legion one is pretty cool too, I wouldn't mind seeing him in something like that! [Smile]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 44: Dawnstar / Bounty
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Top Row: 70s / Giffen Redesign / Magic Wars / Black Dawn / Bounty / Glorithverse
Bottom Row: Retroboot / Cinar Redesign / DCNu / Animated Legion (show) / Animated Legion (book)

 
Posted by Whitelighter on :
 
Okay, I just love you!! *tackles all these Dawnstars!!* Wow!!
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Ooowww!
I'm going to love playing with these designs!
The Magic Wars costume has some wonderful 'bones' and I love all of the browns and tans.

You do such wonderful work, Future!
sigh
 
Posted by Jerry on :
 
Amazing work, as always. You have a great eye for detail, Future.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 45: SHIKARI LONESTAR / Shikari
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Top Row: Kwai Society (x4) / U.P. Jacket / The Legion #3 Cover (Unused Costume)
Bottom Row: Legionnaire (x4) / Psi-Block Collar

 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
I was hoping you'd do Shikari soon after Dawnstarm, for comparison.

I loved Shikari's first looks, especially.
So simple and dramatic.
[Yes]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Yeah, there's something about Shikari's armor on the first look that looks great - especially with the shade of red she was often paired with.

I think her official Legion costume could have benefited from some exposed limbs. When she's armored up, it loses a lot of intimidation and impact in a full body suit. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the original intent with the gray of the Legion look (that it was flesh and not just her costume). I also wouldn't be surprised why they shied away from it. That's a lot of exposure.

I had fun making Shikari more than I had a few recent Legionnaires. Partly it was because I had never paid her as much mind so it was fun to finally learn all her little armor patterns and palettes. Another reason was because I did work on about 6 micros but got 11 out of it. [Wink]
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
[Yes]

I was thinking, and I wish that Coipel had shown the more ridged outline of the armor under her costume when she switched to that mode.
It would have been worth it visually, if he'd gone a little simpler on the armor itself and corseted the dress.

imo

I might try that sometime.
Maybe.
Should be easy using your base, as always.
[Hug]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 46: BLOK
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Row One: Preboot / Perez Design / Giffen Design (x2) / Lightle Design / Magic Wars
Row Two: Retroboot / Five Year Gap / TMK / Postboot (JSA #51)
Row Three: Legends of Dead Earth / JLU Toon / Legion Toon / Superboy's Legion

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Blok is missing his 'Black Witch'/DCNu redesign. Otherwise, most of his official looks are represented.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Love these, especially the TMK version.
I was wondering though, why does he wear clothes at all?
Is it to define his gender or give him a place to put a belt?
[shrug]

Are you going to create the NCNu version?
That one will certainly be different.
 
Posted by Viridis Lament on :
 
Great work Future on the last pages!

Blok is always near the top of my list of favorite LSHers but he has never had a "good" costume.
 
Posted by Blacula on :
 
^ I disagree. I LOVE his Lightle classic. I even quite like the Retroboot hot-pants version of it.

The costume that stands out the most on that list, though, is the gladiator-esque second one. I wonder what his 'look' would have ended up being if Lightle had continued down that road, rather than the traditional super-hero one.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
I too love his Lightle costume and can easily understand why it's been the partial basis for all of his other costume adaptations since the end of the Preboot.

I also wish that Perez's gladitorial costume had actually made a presence in the books - it'd be interesting to see if Blok's character had gotten different play or motifs if that look had stuck. After all, Lightle's design is pretty much taking Blok's first and Giffen looks together and adding a few accessories. Without that costume in history, what would Blok look like now?

I'll be doing the DCNu version eventually. I'm not sure why I didn't make it, I just felt like publishing these yesterday. It'll give me something to actually micro of Blok when I lap back. Up next (someday) is Invisible Kid II.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
The about the Perez costume is that it seems to change his whole personality. Definitely gives him a kind of slave-warrior vibe. Interesting.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Maybe a 'John Carter'(of Mars) look.
[Yes]

Which issue did the Perez look come from?
To make that look fly for long in the Legion, I think that the other costumes would have had to have changed as well.
It would have been the Legion of Swashbuckling Heroes!
[Smile]

PS - Looking at Shikari, I'm thinking that she and Blok would have made a striking couple, especially the versions with Blok's shoulder fissure thingys!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Candle, Blok's gladiator look was from one of George Perez's portraits of the Legionnaires he did roughly around the Great Darkness Saga. I can't quite recall if it made an official appearance in the book, so I included it anyway just to be safe.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 47: JACQUES FOCCART / Invisible Kid II
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Top Row: Preboot (x2) / Post-Great Darkness (x2) / Magic Wars / Retroboot / DCNu
Bottom Row: TMK / Postboot / Animated Legion (x2)

 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
I think I like the simplicity of his first and postboot uniforms and I've never understood how someone who wants to be hidden would wear yellow.
[Confused]

I wonder what it would look like if the black and white were reversed, though?
Something a little like the TMK era's but maybe more interesting.

The Magic Wars outfit is certainly distinctive and beautiful.
[Yes]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
With Jacques, I was surprised just how many variations he had. For example, I didn't realize how many differences between his Retroboot and DCNu outfit there were. I think that makes him one of the most tweaked Legion designs randomly aside from Mon, Jo, and the new kids. Likewise, I didn't realize how many different color and hair looks he had until his first mission (Great Darkness Saga) wrapped.

I really wish his official Legion animated model had a bigger screenshot somewhere. It looks like such an interesting design but something is lost in the small size and thus in my translation.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
I DID do the reverse I suggested.
It's on my micro thread if you're interested.

You make my life so much simpler!
[Yes]
 
Posted by Shining Son on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Candlelight:
I think I like the simplicity of his first and postboot uniforms and I've never understood how someone who wants to be hidden would wear yellow.
[Confused]

Maybe for the contrast? When he IS visible he wants to make sure he's noticed. [Smile] (More likely the artist feels this way than Jacques.)

quote:
I wonder what it would look like if the black and white were reversed, though?
Something a little like the TMK era's but maybe more interesting.

Looks fine, but maybe they shied away from it because back in the day Tyroc and Jacques were blessed exceptions from the then-cliche of black heroes wearing black and having "black" in their names.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Speaking of Tyroc, I always assumed Jacques' costume change from white/black to yellow/black was to differentiate him from Troy. Likewise with the streak in his hair.

Progress is being made on White Witch. She's about 75% done.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 48: MYSA NAL / The Hag / White Witch / Jewel / Black Witch
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Top Row: The Hag / Adventure Era / White Witch (x2) / Retroboot / Black Witch / Glorithverse / Possessed / Post-Mordru / Jewel / Amethyst
Bottom Row: Postboot (x2) / Threeboot / Superboy's Legion / Animated Legion

 
Posted by Whitelighter on :
 
EEK!!! *huggles happily!!* LOVE THESE!!
 
Posted by KryptonKid on :
 
Thanks, I'd forgotten some of these. Bravo!
 
Posted by Whitelighter on :
 
I just realized, Kono was wearing the Amethyst costume, was there a shot where Mysa actually wore the costume?
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Mysa wore it in her last Glorithverse appearance as she fought Mordru - Legionnaires #18.
 
Posted by Whitelighter on :
 
forgot about that, i remembered when i first read that i freaked out
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Beautiful, as always.
Mysa is an amazing character, interesting in every incarnation, imo.
I would have loved to see her in more stories over the years.
[Frown]
 
Posted by Anita Cocktail on :
 
Future, you're simply wonderful!
...and it ain't the booze talkin'.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
How is it that the possessed Mysa looks so much better as a micro?
 
Posted by KryptonKid on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Candlelight:
How is it that the possessed Mysa looks so much better as a micro?

She's smiling?


[White Witch - Re-Imagined]
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
[Yes]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 49: QUISLET / Unpronounceable (don't worry about it!)
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Posted by Future on :
 
Sorry I don't have more to show. I'm working on a lot of new templates right now (Tellus, a younger male for Magnetic Kid) so I don't have a lot to offer aside from Quislet. When I lap back later, perhaps I'll include some of the various forms he's assumed over the years.

I'm also thinking of making a 'smaller' Quislet so that he'd fit in a bit better with the other micros. Right now he's a bit bigger than normal.
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
I'm amazed at how well you capture the little details, like the hair!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
To give credit where its due, the hair is some of the stuff I work on the least. I may recolor it or add or remove a strand, but most of the hairs were previously created.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 50: POL KRINN / Magnetic Lad / Magnetic Kid
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Top Row: Child / Parent Day / Magnoball (x2) / Firebombed / Legionnaire / Swimsuit 1 / Topless / Injured / Swimsuit 2 / Magic Wars / Death
Bottom Row: Zombie / Postboot Child / Postboot Training / Postboot Home / Postboot Magnoball (x3) / Threeboot

 
Posted by Power Boy on :
 
Who knew Magnetic Kid was barely clothed half the time!

j'adore!

[ April 01, 2012, 10:15 AM: Message edited by: Power Boy ]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
No wonder Ayla went after him. She figured he'd fit in perfectly back home at Winath! Being younger/smaller, maybe he also looked a little like Vi...
 
Posted by Power Boy on :
 
I like how you included his death as a 'look' haha!

I just went and double checked Nemesis Kid and you remembered his skull look too ! haha you're awesome.


... although now I wonder why he had a skull head since he should've just had a broken neck and ... Magnetic Kid should've had the skull head.

... discrepancies illuminated by your awesome micros!

[ April 01, 2012, 10:36 AM: Message edited by: Power Boy ]
 
Posted by Exnihil on :
 
[LOL]

Zombie Pol Krinn for the win!!!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
He just always had that damn tongue hanging out!

What can I say, I am loving the chance to do abstract micros like the zombies, skeletons, and the tattered clothes on poor Burn Victim Pol.

Considering how young he was supposed to be, even if Greg and some others didn't draw him that way, it is a little scary how much skin Pol was always showing.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
hmmmm
The Vi/Pol comment is probably spot on, given what we learned later.

I like his Magic Wars costume, but I tend to like most of that era's looks.

My favorite for him though, is his first Magnoball uniform, the red and black.
Any team would love something like that, I think.
Do you remember who designed that one?
 
Posted by Future on :
 
The Magnoball uniforms from the Postboot are all Jeff Moy. The black and red one is actually a color gaffe - it only appeared on the cover of Legionnaires #70. The issue within had the colors of the next two micros.
 
Posted by KryptonKid on :
 
Future, I really do enjoy these.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Thanks, KK!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 51: GANGLIOS / Tellus
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Top Row: Preboot / Helmet / Magic Wars / DCNu
Middle & Bottom Row: The Many Emotions of Tellus

 
Posted by Kent Shakespeare on :
 
nice stuff, as always!
 
Posted by Power Boy on :
 
brilliant! just awesome!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Thanks, team! It's a great feeling to have Tellus done. He's probably one of the most detailed templates I've made from scratch. Like most artists I tend to nitpick, but with him I'm fairly proud of the end result.

I opted to use the 'Lightle' Tellus body, seeing as how he created the guy. I'm not a fan of Tellus standing on his hind legs with claw fingers anyway.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
I especially love the emotional color displays.
[Yes]
I just wish that we knew what the different colors meant.
It seems like I remember reading something that Lightle wrote about them once.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Per Steve Lightle & Nightcrawler, Tellus' color nodules and other fun facts.
 
Posted by Kent Shakespeare on :
 
some neat ideas there! My only quibble os that the emotion colors codes generally match our own culture's associations with color; these are cultural constructs that really are not universal (even between Earth's human populations). That aside, given that they are writing for us as an audience, they make sense.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Both Quislet and Tellus always seem so much cooler in Lightle's descriptions than they ever actually seem in the books.

Good job as always, Future!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Agreed. The potential for Tellus and Quislet was great. It's sad that a lot of the ideas got nixed right out of the gate (the color nodules, Quis having a physical body, etc).
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 52: BREK BANNIN / Polar Boy / Polar Man / Polar King
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First Row: Preboot / Flight Belt / Space Suit / 70s (x2) / Lightle Sub / Giffen Sub / Lightle Legion / Laroque Legion / Giffen Legion / Magic Wars
Second Row: Five Year Gap / Prisoner / "Mento" (x2) / Casual / Tartaras Legion (x3) / End of an Era (x2)

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Third Row: Retroboot (x3) / In Bed / DCNu / Postboot / Postboot Cadet / Threeboot / Threeboot Guard
Fourth Row: Legion Animated / Adult Legion / Superboy's Legion / Knight Legion / Fairytale Legion

 
Posted by Future on :
 
It's getting easier to churn out micros now because each posted character is some type of goal / accomplishment. With Tellus, I was excited to finish the most difficult template yet. With Polar Boy, there were a lot of milestones that would be reached.

First, Polar Boy marks the last of the Pre-Crisis full-time Legionnaires to do. That's a lot of Legion! He also marks the beginning of the Substitute Legion / Five Year Gap, which is a nice change in focus / color palettes for me. Lastly, he brings my total of Legion micros to over 900! Once the Subs are complete we should have over 1,000, as I (for whatever reason) have decided to be horribly thorough with all the looks for the Subs.

Next up is Night Girl! After her, it'll be the Subs followed by the rest of the Retroboot/DCNu members. The DCNu kids, being Academy grads mostly, will of course then lead into the rest of the Academy students and Five Year Gap members.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Whew!
This is one of my favorite Bits series, ever.
Thanks, Future.
[Hug]

And I love Brek's spikey hair.
[Yes]
 
Posted by razsolo on :
 
Yeah, I'm with Candle...always look forward to these! [Smile]
 
Posted by Tempest on :
 
Been a while since I have been here! These are looking AWESOME!
 
Posted by Power Boy on :
 
I find I really like the most classic costumes and the Magic Wars costumes.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 53: LYDDA JATH / Night Girl / Night Woman
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First Row: Origin / Silver Age / Flight Belt / Spacesuit / Fan Design / 70s (x2) / Magnoball / Casual 70s / Giffen (x3)
Second Row: Lightle Design / Cosmic Boy Mini / 20th Century (x3) / VS Time Trapper / LaRocque Design (x2) / Smallville / Swimsuit / Retroboot

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Third Row: Five Years Later (x2) / Winath Reunion (x3) / Ranzz Christening / Zombie Hunter (x2) / Jamm's Influence (x2) / Talus Wear (x3) / End of an Era
Fourth Row: End of an Era (x2) / Postboot / Postboot Homage / Threeboot (x3) / Animated / Superboy's Legion

 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
awesome!!! but cant help wondering if she is a descendant of the The Court of the Owls that are happening throughout the Bat books. Hmmm...that would be interesting!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
I would be interested to learn more about Lydda's heritage or pre-Legion lifestyle. For a girl that begged her father for powers and then initially used them to try and get a specific hero as a boyfriend, it's funny how she doesn't really get a "princess" or "stalker" label. It'd be amusing to me if there was a catty Legion lass who still teased Lydda about being a stalker fangirl despite her tenure now as a heroine.
 
Posted by razsolo on :
 
Yay, Lydda! [Big Grin]

I like most of her costumes...with the owl, even her bikinis look more like superhero costumes than those things usually do.

I still find her current costume more offensive than any of the string bikinis she's worn before...I think having a full bodysuit with a cleavage cut-out where it's SO IMPORTANT we see some boob that it even has to break up her emblem is more tasteless than trying to incorporate sexiness organically into the overall look if that makes sense...
 
Posted by Shining Son on :
 
Lydda didn't get pegged as a princess or stalker because that was a common female behavior in comics at that time.

Remember, for all her talent and independence, Lois Lane still wanted Superman to marry her more than anything else in the 60s.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
One thing I find interesting about Lydda's 60s-esque origin is that, unlike Lois Lane, it seems to withstand the test of time/reboots. I actually like having a heroine with that set-up, though I'd love to see more reactions to the development. What did/does her father think of all this? Did any of the other Subs have secret Legion crushes they'd confide to her about, etc?

Her look that had the most variations was definitely the 80s one designed by, I believe, Steve Lightle. It went through a number of accessory, color, and sleeve changes over the decade. I actually could have made more micro variations of the look, but decided that may be excessive.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 54: STAQ MAVLEN / Fire Lad
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First Row: Origin / Silver Age / Flight Belt / Space Suit (x2) / 70s / 80s (x2) / Retroboot
Second Row: SUBS (x6) / Terra Mosaic / Post-Terra Mosaic (x2)
Third Row: New Earth (x2) / UP Military Academy / Legion Animated / Superboy's Legion / Postboot


[ June 09, 2012, 09:37 PM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by razsolo on :
 
I dig Staq's fire mohawk! ^_^
 
Posted by Set on :
 
Fire Lad is one of those uber-rare cases where I like the post-boot uniform better than the classic.
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
wooooooow Lydda had a lot of outfits. And they're all awesomely done, of course!
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Woah. All those Lyddas are amazing.
 
Posted by Kent Shakespeare on :
 
Great stuff, Future! As always... wish I had something more insightful to say, but I am always pleased to see you have something new. [Smile]
 
Posted by Tempest on :
 
Great micros, Future!

The flame looks great and the flame work on the clothes look really clean!
 
Posted by Reboot on :
 
First in an occasional series of costumes you missed [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by Future:
Submission 01: ROKK KRINN / Cosmic Boy / Polestar

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj105/livewire1007/Legion/cos.gif

Subterfuge Squad & "Ronda-hates-lilac" blue
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 -

quote:
Originally posted by Future:
Submission 02: IMRA ARDEEN / Saturn Girl

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj105/livewire1007/Legion/imra-1.gif

Missed her SP Cadet look, her long-standing ponytailed look and her SP "undercover" look from DCR (also a couple of haircuts - the long, super-straight hair w/fringe Batista gave her right at the end!)
 -  -  -

Oh, and jumping ahead, Thom & Vi's "Workout" looks (you caught Kon's from the SF&O issue!)

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Posted by Future on :
 
'Boot, I do intend to get to all those variations eventually. It's just easier to be thorough on characters that don't involve having to go through 500+ issues to do so.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 55: RAL BENEM / Chlorophyll Kid
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First Row: Origin / Silver Age / Flight Belt / Space Suit (x2) / 70s / 80s (x2) / Giffen / Retroboot
Second Row: SUBS (x6) / Terra Mosaic / New Earth / UP Military Academy
Third Row: Postboot / Animated / Superboy's Legion

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 56: DAG WENTIM / Stone Boy
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First Row: Silver Age (x2) / Flight Belt / Space Suit (x3) / 70s (x2) / 80s (x2) / Giffen (x2)
Second Row: Retroboot (x2) / SUBS (x5) / Terra Mosaic (x3)
Third Row: New Earth (x4) / UP Military Academy (x2) / Postboot / Legion Animated (x2) / Superboy's Legion

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 57: ULU VAKK / Color Kid / Color King
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First Row: Origin / Silver Age / 70s (x2) / 80s (x2) / Gender Swapped / Postboot / Postboot Homage
Second Row: SUBS (x5) / New Earth / UP Military Academy (x2) / Legion Animated

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 58: PETER DURSIN / Porcupine Pete
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First Row: 70s (with and without quills) / 80s / Giffen / SUBS (x2) / UP Military Academy
Second Row: Postboot Homage / Animated

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 59: DRURA SEHPT / Infectious Lass
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First Row: 70s / 80s / Giffen (x2) / Towel / SUBS (4) / Nude / Talus (x3)
Second Row: More Talus (x4) / Legion on the Run / End of an Era / Postboot / Postboot Homage / Postboot Academy (x2) / Animated (x2)

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 60: URK / Urk!
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Only Row: Giffen / LaRocque / LSH v3 #47 / Retroboot


[ December 08, 2012, 10:58 AM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 61: KHFEURB CHEE BEZ / Antennae Lad / Antennae Boy
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Only Row: Audition / Substitute (x3) / Five Years Later (x2) / Postboot Homage / Animated

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 62: FRENK AND DYVUD RETZUN / Double Header
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Only Row: Audition / Substitute (x3) / Animated

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 63: DORI AANDRAISON / Rainbow Girl
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Only Row: Audition / 80s / Retroboot

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 64: MYG of LYTHYL / Karate Kid II
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Only Row: Lythyl / Karate Kid II (x2) / Mind Wipe / Retroboot (x2)

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 65: GRAVA / Comet Queen
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First Row: Origin (x3) / Legion Academy (x2) / Swimsuit / Legion Audition / Substitute Hero
Second Row: Retroboot (x2) / DCNu / Postboot (x2)

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 66: RON KARR
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Only Row: Audition / LSV (Tarik) / LSV (Nemesis Kid) / SUBS (x2) / UP Military Academy / Animated (Season 1 & 2)

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 67: MONICA SADE / Sade
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Only Row: Dominion Chamber / SUBS (x2) / Winter / Earth War / Bounty Fight (x2) / New Earth

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Okay, I think that was about my biggest update in one sitting. 165 micros later...

Anyway, some notes and updates:
- FIRE LAD has been updated with an additional five micros.

- The Subs have been completed. CHLOROPHYLL KID, STONE BOY, COLOR KID, PORCUPINE PETE, INFECTIOUS LASS, URK, ANTENNAE LAD, DOUBLE HEADER, RAINBOW GIRL, KARATE KID II, COMET QUEEN, RON KARR, and SADE have been added.

- I did not include characters like Grinn or Universo, who may have assisted the SUBS at times Five Years Later but never technically served with them. Visi Lad is absent but will be forthcoming with the Academy students.

- I am missing some pin-up/promotional shots which may have had different looks or colorings for the SUBS.

- The total number of micros in the archives has rocketed to over 1100 now.

- The table of contents on the first post has been expanded to feature several teams which have begun to form, like the Legion Academy and LSV.
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Future:
Okay, I think that was about my biggest update in one sitting. 165 micros later...

Anyway, some notes and updates:
- FIRE LAD has been updated with an additional five micros.

- The Subs have been completed. CHLOROPHYLL KID, STONE BOY, COLOR KID, PORCUPINE PETE, INFECTIOUS LASS, URK, ANTENNAE LAD, DOUBLE HEADER, RAINBOW GIRL, KARATE KID II, COMET QUEEN, RON KARR, and SADE have been added.

- I did not include characters like Grinn or Universo, who may have assisted the SUBS at times Five Years Later but never technically served with them. Visi Lad is absent but will be forthcoming with the Academy students.

- I am missing some pin-up/promotional shots which may have had different looks or colorings for the SUBS.

- The total number of micros in the archives has rocketed to over 1100 now.

- The table of contents on the first post has been expanded to feature several teams which have begun to form, like the Legion Academy and LSV.

I simply LOVED THEM all!!! esp looking forward with the Legion Academy (esp. Power Boy and Gravity Kid!) and then hopefully the Uncanny Amazers...I hope so!

keep it up! Love it!
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
[Hug]
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
New additions are awesome as always!

Would love to see Monica Sade back with the Subs. They could use more chicks.
 
Posted by Exnihil on :
 
It almost feels redundant to keep singing the praises of these... but, man, you deserve it!

Thanks for all the hard work you keep putting into these, Future. It's really an amazing body of work you're creating.
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Hey Future, wasn't Stone Boy one of the Legion Cadets from the Reboot?
 
Posted by Reboot on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sarcasm Kid:
Hey Future, wasn't Stone Boy one of the Legion Cadets from the Reboot?

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Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
and dont forget the Legion Lost all-white uniforms! [Big Grin] Pretty please?
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Did I miss Kent Shakespeare?
And Lana Lang?
And Dynamo Boy?
Nemesis Kid?

I'll go check.
sigh

Found Nemesis Kid, but not the other 3.
Or Kono or Celeste, at least I didn't see them in the lists.
Did you say somewhere on these pages that you're going to do that era as a unit?
But, wasn't Sade from that era?
[Confused]

I'll check again.

Did.
No Pete Ross or the other Reservists, IIRC.

[ July 07, 2012, 03:06 AM: Message edited by: Candlelight ]
 
Posted by Set on :
 
I think I like Comet Queen as a micro better than I do as a character! Something about the face, I think, is kinda cool.

Color Kid looks better in a skirt, as a girl, than he does normally. [Smile]

"Yeah, Ulu? That time you were a chick? That was a good look for you..."
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
Who would have thought Stone Boy would have the most looks out of all the Subs?

And Drura is looking might fiiiiiiiine there!
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Is that Harmonia Li in the middle panel of the Academy page abover?

And speaking of Harmonia, . . .
 
Posted by Reboot on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Future:
'Boot, I do intend to get to all those variations eventually. It's just easier to be thorough on characters that don't involve having to go through 500+ issues to do so.

In that case, I'll just drop this here then [Wink]

[Triad] Click for fullsize image

quote:
Originally posted by Candlelight:
Is that Harmonia Li in the middle panel of the Academy page abover?

Ming Sul/Amp Girl.

[ July 19, 2012, 07:13 PM: Message edited by: Reboot ]
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
Future, there was a pretty good fan site called "Zoe's Closet" that had scans of ALL of Kinetix's outfits EVER. Looks like it's down though...

But if you need help with any Postboot era costumes, give me a yell.
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Over here.

http://www.flamingtelepaths.net/kinetix/
 
Posted by Whitelighter on :
 
I can't remember if this one was ever mentioned, but my brother brought up this costume for Mysa to me today...

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Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 68: YERA ALLON / Chameleon Girl
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First Row: Origin / Shrinking Violet (x6) / LSH #305 / LSH #308 / Tales #320 (x2)
Second Row: LSH v3 #1 (x2) / #9 / #10 / #16 / Legionnaires 3 / #27 / #40 / #47 / #58 (x2)
Third Row: JL Satellite / Retroboot / Dirk's Dream Girl / Raingear / Glorithverse Reunion (x7)
Fourth Row: Legion Lost / Hypertaxis / Post-taxis / Disguise / Fries With That / Culling (x2) / Disguise 2 / Present

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Some updates!

Thanks, as always, to the kind words and support from various posters here on this endeavor.

As has been pointed out, there's still lots of characters and looks from Legion lore, thus my absence. I'm hard at work at more! The Academy kids are still forthcoming. ALL the Academy kids, official members or not. They're about 50% done, but I decided to get Yera done because posting her AFTER the new recruits just seemed wrong. By that same token, Earth Man is coming too. Then, onward to the Glorithverse as well as some other villains and heroes.

In regards to previously posted characters and missed or minor outfits, don't expect an update with 100 new Cosmic Boys. Instead, I'll probably be reading through the Legion's vast history in chronological order and routinely update specific characters as I come across new looks.
 
Posted by Exnihil on :
 
Great work as always, Future.

So, reading between the lines, does the absence of Yera as Luornu during the Glorith-verse reunion section give a hint as to what you really think went down on Winath? [Wink]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Haha. Good call, Ex! I always felt that could go either way. We have Luornu with her "different personalities" for the first time in that era. Yera was checking out other men with Nura and Shady in the same annual, so it'd almost be fitting karma!

Regardless, I love Yera. She was always one of my favorite supporting characters for her unique history and the role she played both in and out of the Legion. I'm really glad she's risen from D-list obscurity to C-list obscurity since Johns. [Smile]
 
Posted by Power Boy on :
 
Future you are really amazing ... I had no idea she wore so much purple!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Neither did I, Peebs! I liked the colors on her on her Legion Lost outfit when I first saw it and knew she wore it before ... but wow! They were smart to use that as her color of choice for a reason.

I like that, except for the Glorithverse and later DCNu, she alternated between greens and purples much like the actual Shrinking Violet!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
To be a Double Post Damsel, I also like the implication/likelihood that purple is associated at long last with the Violet character simply due to Yera's preference for the color!
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
Niiiiiiiiiice! I always look forward to more updates form you, Future.

quote:
Originally posted by Sarcasm Kid:
Over here.

" target="_blank">http://www.flamingtelepaths.net/kinetix/[/qb][/QUOTE]


You are awesome, SK!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 69: KIRT NIEDRIGH / Absorbancy Boy / "Zoraz" / Earth Man
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First Row: Absorbancy Boy / Zoraz (x2) / Arctic Expedition / JL Earth Man (x2)
Second Row: Posing as Yera / Green Lantern / Legionnaire (x2) / In Bed / Statue

 
Posted by Jerry on :
 
Nice work, as always. Now I want micros of all the legionnaires "in bed."
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Cham's worn purple quite a bit, too.
Maybe, Durlan's like creating that color with their skin cells, it might tingle deliciously or feel extra silky?
Or, then again, it might be just easy to maintain!
[Yes]

Lovely as always, Future.
I was beginning to worry a little about you, so I'm extra glad to see your wonderful posts.
[Hug]

I find that I've disliked Kirt so much that I had a hard time saving, or even going over, his entry.
sigh
But, okay, I did.
[shrug]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 70: LAUREL KENT / Elna Kent / Manhunter
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Outfits: 70s (x2) / Pajamas / 80s / Sans Cape / Injured / Larocque (x3) / Manhunter / Elna Kent

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 71: GREV MALLOR / Shadow Lad / Shadow Kid
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Top Row: Secret Origins / Secrets of the Legion / Super Stalag of Space / 70s / LSH Annual v2 #3 (x2) / 80s / Talokian Spy / Retroboot / LSH v3 #54 *
Bottom Row: Glorithverse (x3) / Postboot (x2) / Threeboot / Legion of Oz

* LSH v3 #54 depicts an Academy student that looks much like Grev, though younger and possibly female.
Whether you believe it's Grev or not, I've included a micro in both forms to satisfy everyone's canon!


[ November 04, 2012, 09:23 AM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 72: JED RIKANE / Power Boy
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Outfits: 70s / Giffen / Lightle / Retroboot / Pajamas / Science Police / Glorithverse (x2)

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 73: BOBB KOHAN / Crystal Kid
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Outfits: LSH #272 (x2) / LSH #283 / Legion Academy / Retroboot / Test Subject / Glorithverse / UP Military

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 74: TAYLA SKOTT / Lamprey
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Outfits: LSH #272 / LSH #283 / Giffen / 80s / Retroboot / Glorithverse (x2)

 
Posted by Set on :
 
80's Laurel Kent will always be my favorite. Poncho and a pageboy. Classic.

Grev's widow's peak sure did come and go, didn't it? I associate it with him, and didn't realize that it was something added in the 80's.

Funny how the decision to change Lamprey's face back to green in the Retroboot made it look like she's walking around naked all the time. Her appearance in Adventure (drawn by Jiminez) really made it look like she was stepping out of Power Boy's shower in the nude...
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 75: BERTA SKYE HARIS / Nightwind
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Outfits: LSH #272 (x2) / LSH #283 / Legion Academy / Larocque / Retroboot / Glorithverse (x2) / Postboot

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 76: DELYA CASTIL / Mentalla
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Outfits: Audition / Who Is Sensor Girl? / Statue

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 77: RHENT USTIN / Visi Lad
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Outfits: Preboot / Giffen / Retroboot / Glorithverse

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Whew! That's just the first part of the Legion Academy micros! Other miscellaneous students, as well as their associates from the Glorithverse, Postboot, and DCNu are forthcoming.

I didn't feel like holding off and posting them all at once though, because I honestly have no idea when I'll be finished!

Lots of interesting details about these students. As you can see, a lot of their looks are just coloring errors or slight changes done artist to artist over the decades. Especially Grev, with his coloring and hairstyles as Set pointed out!

Despite the fact it does make her look naked, I like the Retroboot coloring of having Lamprey all in green. It harkens back to her original skin color, plus I think it looks less jarring than Caucasian flesh does against that look. I love the almost liquid/electric look her hair has now too!
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Awesome work as always!

Though... did you skip Grev's Super-Stalag outfit? I seem to recall him shirtless in that story.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Haha. I would skip Grev's first appearance. To the Archives I go!
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
I'd totally forgotten a bunch of these, like Laurel's "Elna Kent, Superwoman" appearance. That was in Superman/Batman, right? What issue was that?
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Grev has gotten his Super Stalag on! And Elna Kent is from Superman/Batman #80, I believe!
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
Yes, she was presented as the Superwoman of the 31st Century, next to Kent Shakespeare as Superman.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
And the Brane Taylor version of Batman!
 
Posted by Sarcasm Kid on :
 
And Tom Wayne as Robin, I think.
 
Posted by Jerry on :
 
Yippe for an awesome job on the academy members! That's going above and beyond the call of duty.
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Imo, ALL of Future's work is above and beyond just about anything I've seen for the Legion, anywhere.
He's amazing!
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Set:
80's Laurel Kent will always be my favorite. Poncho and a pageboy. Classic.

Grev's widow's peak sure did come and go, didn't it? I associate it with him, and didn't realize that it was something added in the 80's.

Funny how the decision to change Lamprey's face back to green in the Retroboot made it look like she's walking around naked all the time. Her appearance in Adventure (drawn by Jiminez) really made it look like she was stepping out of Power Boy's shower in the nude...

Comet Queen is similarly 'blessed' with her face and costume being the same color.
I think it's very striking.
Simplicity usually is, imo.

Cham and Yera could do something similar, and for 'real', since they ARE nude, but never have, IIRC.
 
Posted by razsolo on :
 
Lamprey, Nightwind and Crystal Kid sure have changed their looks drastically since their intro, huh? My personal canon is that changing skin/hair pigmentation in the future is the same as getting a piercing or tattoo today...
 
Posted by superboymddjr on :
 
say how about doing the Science Police? [Smile]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by superboymddjr:
say how about doing the Science Police? [Smile]

They're definitely on my shortlist to-do!

quote:
Originally posted by razsolo:
Lamprey, Nightwind and Crystal Kid sure have changed their looks drastically since their intro, huh? My personal canon is that changing skin/hair pigmentation in the future is the same as getting a piercing or tattoo today...

I've accepted that notion as well for my personal canon of how their skin colors could change so drastically. I like to think of Crystal Kid as changing his to impress the Legion, while Lamprey and Nightwind's may be more permanent side-effect.
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 78: TIMTHY SANTOZA / Westerner
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Outfits: LSH v3 #24 / LSH v3 #47/ Who's Who & Retroboot

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 79: TARI WAHLMUNN / Mandalla
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Outfits: LSH v3 #47 / Who's Who / Jiminez Retroboot / Borges Retroboot

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 79: D. SPENGLER BONITA *
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Outfits: LSH v3 #24 / LSH v3 #47

* Name never actually printed or given. This is just Eryk's speculation which I wholly condone.

 
Posted by Future on :
 
That's all I have to post this time. More Academy students are coming, but I figured I'd post these few to keep interest going as I sift through the different realities next.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Yay! I love that "D. Spengler Bonita" is catching on as a name for this character!
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
'Bonita' means 'pretty', right?
She's certainly that.
What's 'D.' stand for, or is it just the initial?
My dad's name was L.D..

Lovely work, as always, Future!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 80: TREBIA RIJLEIGH / Silver Sword
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Outfits: Knight / Universo Project / Legion Academy *

* Though she is never named, a character who appears to have the same armor as Silver Sword is depicted as an Academy student in LSH v3 #47.

 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 81: Skreaks
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Outfits: Pre-Audition / Legion Audition / Retroboot


[ December 08, 2012, 06:17 PM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Submission 82: Legion Academy / Unnamed Students

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Outfits: Larocque Design / LSH v3 Annual #3 / Retroboot

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First Appearance: LSH v2 #294 / LSH v3 #24 (x3) / LSH v3 #47 (x3)

 
Posted by Future on :
 
That rounds out the Preboot Legion Academy members!

Up next! Dragonwing, Gravity Kid, Chemical Kid ... that whole lot! Then, the U.P. Military Academy and the Postboot Legion Academy.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
The fish-things are "Skreaks".

I love these! I never connected that one Academy student with Silver Sword, but you're right it seems to be her!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Thanks, Eryk! I thought the "Silver Sword" design looked familiar, having re-read the Universo Project only a few days prior.

I also enjoy that, despite the fact he's never been named, there's a clear evolution for the unnamed gentleman with a beard in regard to his powerset and hair length. Could this be the rumored Wray Muntz, the unidentified mind-wipee with D. Spengler Bonita, who chooses to use his reality warping powers to augment his own mass? They're depicted as having some type of heated conversation in their first appearance, after all! Why shouldn't the fates keep them together?

I've also always wondered if the unnamed, purple brute was meant to be Power Boy. Jed was the only established Academy student missing from the LSH v3 #47 training shot I believe - the coloring was so similar it had me suspicious. The Retroboot has since established them as two separate characters.

[ December 08, 2012, 08:31 PM: Message edited by: Future ]
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Hmmm... I kind of like the idea of that character as Wray Muntz. Maybe his powers are basically that his physical appearance varies with his own self-image, or something. So, when he's really self-confident, he manifests as a He-man, but turns into a skinny wimp if his confidence is shattered?

I was also wondering if that might be Power Boy!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
I love it. It could help explain how such a potentially powerful meta could be captured by the Dominators, should he have some type of fear of them or lowered esteem due to the collapse of the Legion once he was finally prepped for graduation.

It very well could have been Jed. Larocque was fairly consistent, including a lot of the previous Academy students he had designed later on like Westerner, Mandalla, "Spengler" and "Wray." He had that one-off Laurel Kent Superman costume homage he did, so bulking Power Boy back up to a bigger frame like in his first appearance seems a likely option.
 
Posted by razsolo on :
 
I sound like a broken record but these are awesome Future! Great work including even random background students! [Smile]
 
Posted by Set on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Future:
Submission 81: Skreaks
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Outfits: Pre-Audition / Legion Audition / Retroboot

Very cool! I always wondered what the 'Skreaks' powers were (other than levitation).

Cosmic Teams, IIRC, refers to them as 'Flotsam & Jetsam,' but I have no idea if that's just something the site owner made up on the spot instead of calling them 'floating fish-things.'
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Hmm... I wonder if we could interpret their changing colors as Tellus's "mood ring" color changes to them?
 
Posted by Exnihil on :
 
Building off EDE's comment - what about an even more way out thought:

What if the color changing bumps on Tellus' back actually are an early-development stage of Skreaks? Like some sort of symbiotic relationship where embryonic Skreaks actually gestate on the backs of mature Hykraians?

Get Steve Lightle on the phone!
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
Your work is so good and people seem to appreciate this series, but I don't know if they understand that your work is much more complex than regular micros, since your templates are on an angle.
The angle means that the left and right sides aren't equal, since perspective comes into play and the arms are rounded at the shoulder.
The chests are also angled and defined with 'bulk'.

Regular micros don't have those roundings and angles, so they're identicle on each side as well as flat and just two dimensional.

The Byzantine style is almost impossible to do with all of their little flourishes and points, with your templates.
It just takes SOOOO much longer and is much more of a trial and error, mostly error, undertaking.
It's very frustrating.
[Frown]

But the attempt has made me even more appreciative of you gorgeous work.
[Yes]

[ December 29, 2012, 10:52 AM: Message edited by: Candlelight ]
 
Posted by Shining Son on :
 
Thanks for letting us in on that Candlelight. I knew I had no real idea of the work involved having never tried doing these, but this gives me some idea.
 
Posted by razsolo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Exnihil:
Building off EDE's comment - what about an even more way out thought:

What if the color changing bumps on Tellus' back actually are an early-development stage of Skreaks? Like some sort of symbiotic relationship where embryonic Skreaks actually gestate on the backs of mature Hykraians?

Get Steve Lightle on the phone!

MY MIND.

IT IS BLOWN.
[Eek!] [Eek!]
 


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